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Re: Then, Why don't ALL men RAPE?

by Stingrae » Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:55 pm

it is my opinin wrote:rape is sensitive stage of mind.no body dont like rape if u r good state of mind.if u state of mind is cruel then u r dominated by that moment of sexuality ,at that time people are doing rapes(90% of rapes like this 10% is planed )
fimnally my point is it is only exicited state of sexuality and they cant control themselvs, their common sence is giong to blocked
At that time only people are doing rapes.

remedy:U have to learn how to control u r self and how to become a good sence man..




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by azazel » Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:33 pm

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by The Rainmaker » Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:47 pm

waitaminnut... "rape is a sensitive stage" ??? i think you should be saying insensitive, insane or animalistic stage!



that "good sence man" post must be the greatest compilation of nonsense ever... :lol:



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Re: Then, Why don't ALL men RAPE?

by Alexis » Sun Jun 20, 2004 10:48 pm

it is my opinin wrote:rape is sensitive stage of mind.no body dont like rape if u r good state of mind.if u state of mind is cruel then u r dominated by that moment of sexuality ,at that time people are doing rapes(90% of rapes like this 10% is planed )
fimnally my point is it is only exicited state of sexuality and they cant control themselvs, their common sence is giong to blocked
At that time only people are doing rapes.

remedy:U have to learn how to control u r self and how to become a good sence man..




How is rape a "sensitive state of mind"?? :? A man with a sensitive mind would be sensible and responsible enough not to commit such a heinous crime.

You cant really decide if a rape is premeditated or done in the heat of the moment. Women who are date-raped would agree Im sure. A woman when on a date with some guy, no matter how long shes known him---should always be cautious. Because men can let their hormones get the better of them. Then theres that little problem of a girl leading him on. She'll dress provocatively and talk freely about everything----that would only make the guy think that shes asking for it. In all fairness, its not her fault alone. If he makes a move on her and she resists, the guy should stop. Again, thats when the guy is too aroused to give a damn. Yeah, his good sense is blocked by the sudden urge to please himself.



Basically, rape can be avoided.
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by Lucifer » Tue Jun 22, 2004 2:37 pm

Alexis wrote:Really Lucy?! Then youre exactly how I thought you were! But we're just gonna let it be, youre not gonna get into details? Damn.




Well Alexis, since the mods are not going to let me post all those luscious details that you want to know, consider this statement.



'If rape is inevitable, why not enjoy it?'



I read it somewhere and remember being completely floored by the dark humour in it.
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Re: Then, Why don't ALL men RAPE?

by The Rainmaker » Tue Jun 22, 2004 4:58 pm

Alexis wrote:Basically, rape can be avoided.




it can't be avoided in all cases. if rape was avoidable it wouldnt be occuring so frequently in delhi -- remember that film festival that happened there 4 months back? a swedish (or maybe swiss) film journo was raped when she was returning to her car after a late night show.



rape can only be avoided if the authorities start taking strict action against it.. with some equivalent of capital punishment. it would be a deterrent against such thoughts too.
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by Jaan » Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:02 am

Lucifer wrote:'If rape is inevitable, why not enjoy it?'


Yeah, most rapists use that and add, "She really means 'Yes!', when she says 'No.'"

it is my opinin wrote:rape is sensitive stage of mind.no body dont like rape if u r good state of mind.if u state of mind is cruel then u r dominated by that moment of sexuality ,at that time people are doing rapes(90% of rapes like this 10% is planed )
fimnally my point is it is only exicited state of sexuality and they cant control themselvs, their common sence is giong to blocked
At that time only people are doing rapes.

remedy:U have to learn how to control u r self and how to become a good sence man..


Who are you? No, more importantly, What are you trying to say?! My cryptology friends could not decipher your message.

Uff, noobs!



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Re: Then, Why don't ALL men RAPE?

by Alexis » Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:36 am

The Rainmaker wrote:
Alexis wrote:Basically, rape can be avoided.


it can't be avoided in all cases. if rape was avoidable it wouldnt be occuring so frequently in delhi -- remember that film festival that happened there 4 months back? a swedish (or maybe swiss) film journo was raped when she was returning to her car after a late night show.

rape can only be avoided if the authorities start taking strict action against it.. with some equivalent of capital punishment. it would be a deterrent against such thoughts too.






Yes I agree, rape cant always be avoided. And before men learn to tame their animalistic, and 'my-pleasure-when-I-want-it' attitude---the authorities should take it upon themselves to take more precautions so that needless izzat-looting doesnt take place.
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Re: Then, Why don't ALL men RAPE?

by Lucifer » Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:52 am

Alexis wrote:Yes I agree, rape cant always be avoided. And before men learn to tame their animalistic, and 'my-pleasure-when-I-want-it' attitude---the authorities should take it upon themselves to take more precautions so that needless izzat-looting doesnt take place.




Alexis, you are right and wrong. Don't take it the wrong way but I think you have slightly confusing ideas when it concerns rape. Men do not rape for pleasure alone. Those who want pleasure go to hookers. Those who commit the heinous crime of rape do it for the twisted kicks they get out of controlling and subjugating a woman. I guess it makes them feel more of a man.



Really, I do not think that the authorities can do much unless we have more lawyers with a conscience. Rape trials drag on for years, sometimes lasting beyond the time of the actual sentence. What happens then? The accused is free all the while, and even if he is pronounced guilty he goes scot free because of that rule which states that you can only be behind bars for the total time of the sentence - the time the trial went on for.



Is money really so important that these lawyers use all the tricks in the world to defend the guilty? I think the lawyers of the accused, if found guilty, should also be put behind bars. That would serve them right for defending a social devil.
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by azazel » Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:55 pm

Lucifer dude, i agree with u on the rape is more abt power n control rather than gratification deal.. but blaming the lawyers alone doesnt make sense.. the whole system is at fault here.. the police, the judiciary, even the victims most of the time keep it under wraps or are threatened into silince.. gettin away with murder is easy these days.. :roll: sad state of affairs indeed..
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by Lucifer » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:50 pm

azazel wrote:Lucifer dude, i agree with u on the rape is more abt power n control rather than gratification deal.. but blaming the lawyers alone doesnt make sense.. the whole system is at fault here.. the police, the judiciary, even the victims most of the time keep it under wraps or are threatened into silince.. gettin away with murder is easy these days.. :roll: sad state of affairs indeed..




Azazel, when I said lawyers I meant the whole justice system here. I think even the judges are at fault if they succumb to every whim of the lawyers when they ask for a second date. I don't really blame the victims. The stigma attached to rape is simply too great for many of them to deal with. We would need a good social support system for them to come out in the open more often.
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by azazel » Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:26 pm

Lucifer wrote:We would need a good social support system for them to come out in the open more often.




i second that man.. what is needed is support for the victims in such cases rather than just sympathy :roll:
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Fri Jul 30, 2004 3:00 am

Found this article in TOI.



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-794471,curpg-1.cms



'Rapists are repeat offenders'



They are not ferocious looking. In fact, you’ll be surprised to note that they are mostly baby-faced people


“The problem is that a rapist just cannot help himself. He commits a rape simply because he can,” Sanchetan ’s findings indicate


These are almost always normal people living in normal households, with jobs. But if you probe carefully, they would almost always be unstable. I interviewed this inmate – he was convicted under section 376 for ‘one’ rape he’d committed on his female colleague in office. After hours of counselling, when I befriended him, he told me that not one, he’d raped three women in his life. Only one of them was able to go to the police with her complaint and therefore he was in jail. Privately many of them tell me that they commit repeat assaults,” reveals Mitra


“Once a rapist, always a rapist! I have seen enough cases of repeat assault,” reiterates Mitra. Punishments do not serve any purpose in rape cases - these men are mentally ill, although you cannot notice it,” he adds.


Interestingly, even as psychiatrists point out that there are 100% chances that a rapist would re-commit a rape the moment an opportunity presents itself, the Indian legal system continues to award just a simple punishment of 7 years to a rapist.


Most of the time it is within the family, but when it is not – we have noticed that the assaulter tracks the victim for days on end and only then zeroes in on her’” says Mitra. In addition, it has also been noticed that sexual assaulters pick up non-assertive docile victims, where he has more chances of ‘getting away with it.


A potential sexual offender would go for the ‘safest of professions’. “They chose professions which will give them easy access to little girls and women. Primary among these are roles of personal tutors, servants, sports teachers and even religious professions like being a priest or a granthi,” offers Mitra.
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by Lucifer » Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:56 am

MM, what was your point, again? :roll: :?:
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by azazel » Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:04 am

--ditto--



but then i think, it was prolly meant to assert the fact tht harsher punishment is required..
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by asli_badmash » Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:20 pm

MM's point is..



- Baby faced people are all rapists; because they dont get laid enough. :twisted:



- If you see a person(man/woman) at more than two places at the same time you were there.. they are trying to rape you. Hmmmm :? No wonder I see that Girl jogging everyday at the precise same time as I go out for a Jog! I have to be carefull, you know shayad woh meri Izzat hi loot le! :twisted:



Lets talk about the old times a little bit.. I mean really old times.



The early mans way of courting a woman was to hit her over the head with a bludgeon and drag her into the cave. Now that would be considered rape by all means today. But it wasnt considered a rape then... it was an accepted practice then.



Coming back to our times.. We have educated, ambitious women who have consenting sex and then create a hue and cry that they were raped. :roll: I mean.. portraying oneslef like a victim is become a fav pass time. The real rapes are never reported. What about all the maids who get raped day in and day out by their lusty Masters. What about all the sexual molestations women in jail have to face at the hands of jail wardens.



So "What is RAPE?"



- Does the Media decide who was raped and who wasnt?

- Does the status of a woman in society decide wether she were raped ?



Dont get me wrong, I sympathize with all the women who are abused... But I think JUSTICE should be served equally.



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by Mayavi Morpheus » Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:32 pm

You got me wrong AB.

I believe that rapists are repeat offenders and a Jail sentence or counselling doesnt change their mindset. That is why I support capital punishment for rapists - child molestors in particular.

I actually wanted to post this article in "does he deserve mercy thread" but ended up posting here.
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by asli_badmash » Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:38 pm

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:You got me wrong AB.
I believe that rapists are repeat offenders and a Jail sentence or counselling doesnt change their mindset. That is why I support capital punishment for rapists - child molestors in particular.
I actually wanted to post this article in "does he deserve mercy thread" but ended up posting here.
Naah.. I was kidding about the baby faced people and the known people raping you... but its true to some extent.

I support capital punishment for child molesters too... I say burn them!

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