Should C B Naidu become PM?

[Pavan K N]

All our national leaders are old. we ofcourse need experience,,, we also need dynamic people...
should people like Naidu become PM. who are the other choices?

[Dart]

You are right - our national leaders are old / sick and I think have too much of experience that has become a kind of disadvantage rather than advantage. We do have a fairly large group of young and dynamic leaders with reasonable experience. The people of our country must now take a revolutionary step and try revamping the whole scene by replacing all the old crooks. There is certainly a risk involved but I guess, whatever it may be , the situation will not be worst than it is now. The added benefit will be we will atleast have a hope of stable long term leadership.

[RP]

Is it age? Or is it leadership? The former increases with time, the latter with mental maturity, versatile experience and commitment to public service. While the old socialists were a disaster, the aging conservatives (read \"BJP\") have done a much better job. Just the other day, in the Wall Street Journal, a former US Ambassador to India praised the current Indian Leadership\'s desire, commitment, and determination to \"open\" the country to foreign investment and a transparent economy. Now that is what leadership is supposed to do to India; i.e., open India for future economic progress. Now let us ask again: does age matter? To deal with the ridiculous meandering political processes, which used to be charades all the time in the Indian Parliament and State Assemblies, you need seasoned politicians and those that have seen or experimented with various political processes. It is nice to ask for \"young lads\" to be CMs and PMs but you may end up with another person who may start an Internet Ministry and walk with a laptop asking farmers to use them as well and increase crop productivity. After all, isn\'t everyone between 19 and 29 and \"IT Professional\" or a \"Software Engineer\" these days?

[Faheem]

Dart,
I need human life security than anything else in my country and please don\'t call BJP a conservative party. What is the meaning of conservatism any way? Can killers, rapists and Modi, Singhal, Thackerey and Advani be conservatives? Also, don\'t tell me few doesn\'t mean all are bad. Forget about all the justice man - that killer will be the CM of that sorry state AGAIN! What kind of leadership we are talking about? Why did Vajpayee or say the party leadership allow this guy to run on BJP\'s ticket? Because BJP follows instructions from extremist orgs like VHP and RSS, and Modi and the likes have their blessings. So where\'s the leadership you are boasting about?

[lucifer-in-disguise]

Faheem, why cry over BJP? OK, agreed about bal thakeray and Gujarat... but why did thakarey become popular??? and what actually initiated the Gujarat riots??? think about the conditon of those 1000s of Kashmiri Pandits who were thrown out of there houses, and now actually live like refugees... how many temples etc were destroyed in India???

[Pavan]

OTHER THAN VAJPAYEE/SONIA/ADVANI/............WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE RIGHT CANDIDATE ?

[lucifer-in-disguise]

pavan, see what can a PM or a govt do? they can at the best act as a initiator,or a fecilitator, the country is too huge to be managed by just one person rt... , so courtesy to Mr.PV narsimharao and Dr.Manmohan singh, the country has chosen a correct path of opening up, what we need a is corrupt free regime, and i feel despite some short commings , BJP is really good at the centre

[pavan]

well boss!!, i am not for or against anybody or party....i just wanted to know who people thing the future PM will be

[RP]

In all due respect, Faheem\'s statements are colored. He/she is seeing all things through the green lens. Yes, Modi should not lead Gujarat. But Pavan is asking about a global issue, not a myopic viewpoint on one three politicians about one state. Conservatism means being smart minded. The liberal wacos of the Congress Party completely turned the nation into a joke and a pastime for world to show naked saints and bloody Kashmiris on the world television. Who signed off on transferring the first piece of land over to the Pakistani invaders? If some people feel so strongly about anti-Indian sentiments, then they should happily step out of our nation instead of dissenting about everything a government does. One of our friends here is right. The government can only do so much. People make the fabric of the nation, not leaders alone. We elect them to do a job. Leadership is all about making tough decisions. It is not easy. Every return comes with a risk. Pleasing all is pleasing none. Leaders know this and do the best they can. Vajpayee is not the first to support the likes of Modi. Starting with Nehru down to Sonia, starting with Sallawuddin Owaisi down to street politicians of Old City practice this each day. Do not blame a few actions (or inactions thereof) against the good that leaders like Vajpayee have done to our nation.

[RP]

In all due respect, Faheem\'s statements are colored. He/she is seeing all things through the green lens. Yes, Modi should not lead Gujarat. But Pavan is asking about a global issue, not a myopic viewpoint on one three politicians about one state. Conservatism means being smart minded. The liberal wacos of the Congress Party completely turned the nation into a joke and a pastime for world to show naked saints and bloody Kashmiris on the world television. Who signed off on transferring the first piece of land over to the Pakistani invaders? If some people feel so strongly about anti-Indian sentiments, then they should happily step out of our nation instead of dissenting about everything a government does. One of our friends here is right. The government can only do so much. People make the fabric of the nation, not leaders alone. We elect them to do a job. Leadership is all about making tough decisions. It is not easy. Every return comes with a risk. Pleasing all is pleasing none. Leaders know this and do the best they can. Vajpayee is not the first to support the likes of Modi. Starting with Nehru down to Sonia, starting with Sallawuddin Owaisi down to street politicians of Old City practice this each day. Do not blame a few actions (or inactions thereof) against the good that leaders like Vajpayee have done to our nation.

[lucifer-in-disguise]

RP mama, Kyaa baat kahin aapne, thats terrific and thought provoking......further on i would also like to remind you that even after losing Kashmir, to pakistan , Nehru did not sense, we were after 15 long years once again humiliated by China, actually had we used our airforce, we would not have been defeated so badly by our neighbours, congress party really sucks for all the permamanat problems it has created for this wonderful nation...........and if i think further, i can say that Nehru, called back the victorios and marching Indian armies from pakistan land just to please Lord Mountbatten and his fair skinned wife, who were then in India.........so keeping all this in view , i still feel BJP is the party which has good leaders and should lead our country into more prosperity......and finally let the crying people always cry, let the people suffering with jaundice always see the world in yellow.......dont care....
as long as there are sensible people in India, Party like BJP will always be in power and bring the nation more prosperity

[RP]

Thanks LID. I am glad someone got the point about our renowned (only in India, by the way) first PM whose judgement begs for explanation on every decision he made. We were such an ambivalent nation during his times and the longer shadow in history he created. We have been implementing the 5-year plans time after time knowing full well they are a big failure. It is easy to say our GDP will grow at 5% per year and then downgrade the numbers to 4, 3, 2 and then to 1% year after year. Leadership is about dedication to develop nation into growing Capitalism, not the decaying Socialism. You make the pick between BJP and Congress and see where the feathers may fall. You can make a clear connection. The main question was about age or experience. I think it is hard to pick one for the other. You have young leaders who are dynamic (Naidu is a good example) and old leaders who are smart (Vajpayee). Owaisi did a lot (or so they say) to the Old City while Congress (the J Nehru, I Gandhi, R Gandhi and now S Gandhi) did a lot of favors to those within its radius of influence. Everybody has opinions, rights and all else in our free nation (or one that is trying to get its freedom - economically).

[lucifer-in-disguise]

RP mama, i still do not understan what Owaisi did for old city, it is still called /looks a pretty OLD city.....but ya , i know, he was a watch man or something like that b4 comming to politics, and now he has a fleet of colleges and innumerable ajnabi bank khatas, but it is a pity, every body knows he is winning always by giving those blood boiling speeches purely on the religios grounds and with the roeligios votes.....if HE wins for the last 20 years and will win for the next 20 years people will say he has \"\"\"\"\"developed\"\"\"\"\" the old city, but if, BJP wins,,,, they say they are diviing the country, communal party etc......because of these set of ppl still forming a chunk of the population leaders like owaisi are born, to loot the country abd become more n more rich.......i feel Gujarat tiger Narendra modi should become the PM of the country with CBN as the economic/finance minister and advaniji retaining the post of home.....terrific combination naa what say RP mama?

[Dart]

What a poor taste and imagination !!! It is a real pity that educated people who within their own minds think are very smart actually do not have even a faint clue and sense of what they are talking about - It all looks like they just talk for the sake of talking and take anything that comes from the top of their heads - Imagine people calling a coward and a sneaky ....... a TIGER!! Joke of the Millennium.

[lucifer-in-disguise]

further on.... it is more pity , that these own very well,highly educated people do not know complete facts, and what really happend in the past and is happening now........yes I call him TIGER, he is one state rt now, being regarded as the sardar vallabh bhai patel-2, just the way we call cbn as the IT man........lucky Gujarat, to have people like Modi, and keep watching , he is comming back with vengence, to wipe away all those evil forces for ever,and with a thuping majority, which was never seen before...........

[Dart]

I wonder how can people forget Pharaon - who claimed to be the God - where is he now ???? what happened to this GOD - I think I need not tell that GOD does not disappear or DIE!!! Likewise, Its all matter of time - people will witness the justice of nature. Be it Modi or Owaisi or any body else, whoever has done acts of injustice will have to face the wrath within this world. Yes I heard people call Modi - KHOTA SARDAR.

[RP]

Dart, do not get too upset. LID may have stretched his ideas a little bit but is expressing sentiments based on his perception of the recent events. And the reason why I think we should take his viewpoint somewhat seriously is because of the number of people who feel the same way. You may have heard this, \"Perception is reality\" meaning at some point, all pre-conceived notions come to fruition - some way or another. Do not assault somebody’s personal characteristics such as \'intelligence\' and \'qualifications\' because we know little about people on this board. Who knows, Mr. Naidu or even Dawood may be logging on here.

[mrk]

Sure why not, but he must not work for himself. He must monitor or try to get work from the officials. He must act as a boss but not as a co-member.