US - The big bully on the block?

[Srinu]

When I read of US and its \"allies\" (read Britain) trying to dismantle the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, I wonder who is the bigger rogue state. Iraq or US? Even when Iraq agrees to abide by the UN resolutions, US planes bomb \"defense systems\" in Iraq. US is the real threat to the world. Even for self-defense why would anyone want more than a couple of nukes? You don’t need 100 nukes let alone thousands. US is the first one to back out of signing accords or breaking treaties which try to eliminate these weapons of mass destruction. As long as it suits them, Pakistan is a \"key ally\" knowing fully well that its sponsoring terrorism in India. US can bomb any country in the world. Sometimes to save a few American soldiers life, they don’t mind blowing up towns causing loss of lives of innocent citizens terming it \"collateral damage\". But India can’t do the same knowing fully well that terrorists and mercenaries have set up camp on the other side of the border. The US is victim of its own deeds. They helped create, train and equip the Taliban/Al Qaida like outfits for holding out against the Russians. Now like Frankenstein, the same outfits have turned against their “master”. The US just doesn’t want to learn from its mistakes. Its again making the mistake of making Pakistan its “key” ally. Whatever logistic reasons it may have, US has to realize that it is not doing the right thing. The policy it is pursuing is neither moral nor wise.

[pavan]

OIL is teh key thing man !!!!

[pavan]

OIL is the key thing man !!!!

[RP]

So you think that Iraq is a better nation than US... think twice. Yes, everybody has imperfections. So does US. Think again. Who is paying those illegal infiltrators into Kashmir? Is it the US or some fundamentalist rogue nation like Iraq and Pakistan. For once, I think Musharraf is in a quandary. He cannot speak openly against terrorism for fear of a bloody coup but India is better off with a Musharraf than a Zia-Ul-Haq type of dictator who abused American support all along. I truly believe that the US is doing a great favor by reducing, if not eliminating, terrorism and nations that support evil. We should be glad someone is doing it because we cannot do this all by ourselves globally. Remeber, Saddam is known for providing retirement /pension plans for islamic militant families. US may be a bully, but it takes a bully to defeat terrorism on all fronts .... not a pen-wielding nation. Let us not blame the US because of our own past mistakes. History shows that the US tried to woo our nation before it did Pakistan. Our senior leadership till late 80\'s was busy sucking up to the Soviets and implementing the inefficient five-year plans. Where did that lead India to? Poverty and misery. Let us not blame the US for everything or else there is little difference between the suicide islamic bombers and educated civilized men and women of our great nation. US is not perfect but it is better than most garbage nations out there including every piece of crap nation that borders us.

[Srinu]

The following is an excerpt from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_poin ... 511473.stm
It was a forum where a war scenario between india and pakistan was created(simulation). and the decision making of US officials was observed and questions asked. Read on....
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Mohammed Hanjour, Oxford: Do you truly believe that in order to avoid a nuclear exchange, the US would launch an attack on Indian forces which was the scenario in the programme?


Karl Inderfurth:
That will be a terribly difficult decision for any US president to make - to launch an attack on Indian forces. It was the one that the advisers came up with in their deliberations before I entered the room as president. I was somewhat taken aback because as many people know, the United States has for the past several years - first under President Clinton and now under President Bush - worked very hard to improve and strengthen our relations with India. I was a part of that so the idea that we would be attacking Indian forces, sort of set me back.

Also in this scenario, India was not the country responsible for the immediate crisis. It related to terrorist attacks in Kashmir and the assassination of an Indian defence minister and then a movement by Pakistani forces across the international border into India. So India was responding to these events.

But it was placing at risk a large number - 20,000 Americans in the region -and that if there were a nuclear exchange, these Americans would be at risk. So the US had a responsibility to see what could be done to try to get the two sides to back away from pushing the nuclear button. All of that led to the possibility of an attack on Indian forces.

As you know, I also said in The Situation Room scenario that if we are going to threaten that use of military force, we also had to tell Pakistan to get its forces also back across the international border into Pakistan and that we should also work with India to go after those terrorist camps that had provoked this - including those in the Pakistani-held portion of Kashmir. So it was a complicated scenario but it is one where use of force may have been used.
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So just bcos the US believes its nationals to be in danger, it doesnt hesitate in attacking India, knowing fully well that India was provoked into the conflict. I agree the interest of US as a nation and its nationals is of paramount factor for America. But to attack a country to save its own hide ......

[RP]

To mention that the US would attack India is to accept ignorance of the current geo-political situation, especially in Southeast Asia. US most definitely knows, from both history and local politics, that the more trustworthy nation is India and not Pakistan. They, however, can admit to that openly because they need the soil of Pakistan to defeat their main enemy, the Osama and his coterie including Omar and Al-Zawahiri. US is smart in what it does. Yes, they have been known for backing out of some deals they made with some nations. But what nations were they? Pakistan, on a few occassions, Iran on others and even Iraq at one point in time. But then think about what these countries stand for. They rarely backed out of a deal with Israel or UK or evn India for that matter. What have we done in response? Kept ignoring them forever. US will NEVER attack India. The US Administration respects Indian Democracy because it knows full well that we are the only non-communist, non-dictatorial, non-royal, non-atnti-ethnic nation (each of which is a quality of the four major neighbors we have). US still wants to be India\'s protege. We keep on ignoring them. Whoever thinks India will be attacked by the US is mistaken. I am a proud Indian and have noticed these issues from inside the US. Why this hatred toward a nation that has given so much to democracy across the world .... especially when it comes to reducing the enemies WE have to face.

[Burp]

NEVER Believe White People