Peeping Tom

[MM2]

In every patient we Doctors see only money not a human being. Patients are cash cows first and then they Human beings.

ive recently heard about incidences tht mirror ^^ that..coming out of reputed private hospitals who's rampant expolitation of everyone that comes in for treatment is just pathetic.

more on this later

Whys that such a surprise? Money makes the world go round. People can sell their souls to see green.

[peeping tom]

Medical care has become extremely commercialised. They've been various cases where a person was put on the Ventilator just to generate enormous hospital bills. Really pisses me off. It pisses everyone off. The tension through the days and then the person being proclaimed dead and then the enormous bill to be paid...

It is extremely disappointing that everybody is trying to throw dust over doctors.

First, please try to understand the different category of doctors. What you people complaining about the doctors are super specialists who are serving in multi speciality hospitals. The super specialists placed over there will try to get the maximum charges as possible. This is the scene in corporate hospitals.

Whenever a dangerously ill patient is being admitted neither the doctors nor the next of kin can postpone the admission because of financial reasons. The relatives initially give the full assurance to the doctors about the financial support and other support for the treatment. The doctors clearly explain to patient’s relatives about the possible failure in treatment. For example Old patients with Myocardial infarction, cardiac conduction disorders, diabetic ketoacidosis, severe head injuries, septicemias, meningitis, meningoencephalitis have very poor prognosis. Whenever the unfortunate thing happens, they directly throw the shit over doctors. Usually the financial loss and the death of near and dear create outburst of frustration by the relatives against the doctors.

To the best of my knowledge, no doctor will try to eradicate the patient. Secondly, medical science is still an unsolved mystery. Even though the investigations have developed so much, pinpoint diagnosis is not at all possible.

Only doctors who are going through daily difficulties can understand the medical field. Unfortunately, most of the binary guys (engineers) in this forum never understand this.

One more point has to be mentioned.

MIDDLE CLASS MENTALITY has changed so much in the years. Now everybody wants to take treatment in Apollo like hospital for even minor ailments.

On that day, I was seeing a person who was boiling in the Apollo hospital billing section by seeing the fees of Rs 2000/- for minor suturing of cut injury forearm of his daughter. Why can’t he go to his family physician or to a smaller hospital with decent record of accomplishment? He should have completed the job for Rs 300/- it is his stupidity by shouting at a super speciality hospital.

Now a day’s middle class people want the best treatment at cheapest rates.

How is this possible yar?

Secondly, some people who are going to USA come and supplicate us to prescribe as much Indian medicines possible.



In government hospitals, the scenario is still very bad. Most of the middle class want free CT scans for minor ailments like headache.



All these comments mean I have hatred to patients. These are all the points. Both doctors and patients have to evolve to the situation. That s right.



Not all the doctors have given money and joined.

I never gave even a penny to join medical college as donation fee.

[peeping tom]

All these comments mean I have hatred to patients.

CORRECTION By seeing all these comments please dont think that i have hatred towards patients.

[Sharjeel]

It's cool dearie. Everyone knows Doctors are very good people, which is why the profession is most respected.

MIDDLE CLASS MENTALITY has changed so much in the years. Now everybody wants to take treatment in Apollo like hospital for even minor ailments.
On that day, I was seeing a person who was boiling in the Apollo hospital billing section by seeing the fees of Rs 2000/- for minor suturing of cut injury forearm of his daughter. Why can’t he go to his family physician or to a smaller hospital with decent record of accomplishment? He should have completed the job for Rs 300/- it is his stupidity by shouting at a super speciality hospital.

Don't ye be calling this middle class mentality. It is called common sense.



People are not expected to know the severity of any ailment by themselves. If it is a super-speciality hospital, then they should stop accepting trivial cases and advise people to go to a GP instead. The girlies arm was cut and father wanted her to be treated at the best possible place. The hospital staff shud have told him that the cuts a minor one, and shooed him off to a clinic. But they didn't, and fleeced him off. This actually justifies the peoples hatred towards these type of doctors/institutions.



This fleecing business stems from the fact that the effort, time and money spent to become a doctor is humungous.

[CtrlAltDel]

Whenever the unfortunate thing happens, they directly throw the shit over doctors. Usually the financial loss and the death of near and dear create outburst of frustration by the relatives against the doctors.

i agree with Peepie on that ^^^ point. many people expect Drs. to work miracle on all patients and tend to blame Drs. if the patient dies. This attitude was recently seen in the Gandhi Hospital incident.

Not all the doctors have given money and joined. I never gave even a penny to join medical college as donation fee.

good for u Peepie....maybe u wont be charging that high fees when u start yr own practice....

[peeping tom]

good for u Peepie....maybe u wont be charging that high fees when u start yr own practice....

control baba,

I am a pure Madya sarcari doctor. I cant charge fees to anybody.

[CtrlAltDel]

good for u Peepie....maybe u wont be charging that high fees when u start yr own practice....

control baba,
I am a pure Madya sarcari doctor. I cant charge fees to anybody.

maybe u wont be charging that high fees when u start yr own practice

i assume that someday u will start yr own practice...

[lonewolf]

That was a reasonable thing you said in your long post, PT. I've heard of cases where people bring their relatives who are knocking on Heaven's door, to the local hospital expecting a miracle. The patient ultimately dies and the relatives throw all the blame on the doctors.



At the same time, there are those lazy and dishonest doctors who care a damn. I saw a Telugu movie recently where Chiranjeevi was the hero. He kidnaps and kills corrupt lawyers, doctors, engineers and whatnot I forgot the name of the movie. There was a few scenes showing how doctors exploit the people. Unfortunately, the director got too carried away and exaggerated it a lot. Anyone knows the name of that movie? I want to watch it fully this time

[CtrlAltDel]

I saw a Telugu movie recently where Chiranjeevi was the hero. He kidnaps and kills corrupt lawyers, doctors, engineers and whatnot I forgot the name of the movie. There was a few scenes showing how doctors exploit the people. Unfortunately, the director got too carried away and exaggerated it a lot. Anyone knows the name of that movie? I want to watch it fully this time

Tagore???

[The Jackal]

I saw a Telugu movie recently where Chiranjeevi was the hero. He kidnaps and kills corrupt lawyers, doctors, engineers and whatnot I forgot the name of the movie. There was a few scenes showing how doctors exploit the people. Unfortunately, the director got too carried away and exaggerated it a lot. Anyone knows the name of that movie? I want to watch it fully this time

Tagore???

Yeah its Tagore.It was one ****ed up movie.The exaggeration wasnt normal,it was overblown.

[asli_badmash]

Peeping Tom here are some more points for you to consider.



- I understand people going to specialist doctors even for the small ailments. And obviously the specialists charge them a lot, the same treatment could have been given by a regular doctor. Why people go to the specialist os because of Trust... They trust the specialist and are willing to pay more for that. If takes time to build a client list. Only if you practice with a clean conscinece can you earn the right name.



- Its not middle class mentality to hope for the best. Do you know an average middle class family with kids spends 10%-25% of their salaries on doctors. If they are spending so much is it wrong to get good service.



- Another thing that pisses me off totally is that doctors order you this test and that test... and the tests are totally unrelated to the symptoms... The scam is they are tied up with the Testing clinics and get their referal fee from them. So the more patients they refer the more they ear.



- This happened to me in US. I went to ER with a bad stomach ache.. maybe because I ate something bad. I was puking and was having a lot of problem. The doctor did all the tests and told me he has to operate me for apendicitis(spell??). As I understand... the apendix is in the right corner and my pain was in the left corner under my rib cage. He gave me all the medical mumbo-jumbo to put me under the blade. I said I am not doing it. Then he gave me some tablets and let me be. After some time the pain subsided and the tests came back negative for apendicitis and I was sent back home. This only proves that the doctor was out to make money on me.



Doctors are the same all over the world. I just dont trust them.

[lonewolf]

I saw a Telugu movie recently where Chiranjeevi was the hero. He kidnaps and kills corrupt lawyers, doctors, engineers and whatnot I forgot the name of the movie. There was a few scenes showing how doctors exploit the people. Unfortunately, the director got too carried away and exaggerated it a lot. Anyone knows the name of that movie? I want to watch it fully this time

Tagore???

Yeah its Tagore.It was one ****ed up movie.The exaggeration wasnt normal,it was overblown.

LOL yeah that was the name - Tagore. Even a typical James Bond movie with all the hi-tech gadgets would have made much better sense!

[azazel]

Whys that such a surprise? Money makes the world go round. People can sell their souls to see green.

its not surprising ma, its saddening. makes u wanna think twice before putting the care of ur near n dear ones in their hands. i dun blame the docs or the hospitals if a patient dies, i mean when uve gotto go, uve gotto go. its the exploitation for monetary reasons that im dead against. like some of the points AB mentioned, ive seen them happen.. common-place these days. dead people have been put on ventilators for more than a coupla days to scam money thats how bad it has become.