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by ZC » Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:09 pm

Will India beat China. I feel the answer is yes and no. Yes, in terms of growth, exports etc, ..........No: coz therez too much population and its difficult to reduce poverty than in China coz they have strict population control..........
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:23 pm

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Re: China Vs India

by CtrlAltDel » Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:57 pm

ZC wrote:.........No: coz therez too much population and its difficult to reduce poverty than in China coz they have strict population control..........




...please note that Naidu has nothing to do with this situation. :D
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by ZC » Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:10 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:
ZC wrote:.........No: coz therez too much population and its difficult to reduce poverty than in China coz they have strict population control..........


...please note that Naidu has nothing to do with this situation. :D
grow up :lol: ....nway, therez a little bit of a child in everyone :wink:
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by akhilis2cool » Tue Apr 06, 2004 6:16 pm

In the area of manufacturing though india can compete well......it cannot match the sheer size of the chinese manufacruring units. there labour laws (if any) help them keep the costs at a very low level.



but they are able to get good orders from america....because there politicians lobby really hard with countries like america.





as far as services (ITeS) are concerned.....forget it... china will never ever come close to competing with india. they just dont have that many english speaking people......till they come close India will be too far ahead of them.
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by azazel » Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:40 pm

hindi-chini bhai bhai :twisted:
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by ZC » Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:44 pm

bhai-bhai kyon............bhai-bhabhi :wink: i would love to marry a chinki, if only i am not married :D agar mera shaadhi hogaya ho tha tho !
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by azazel » Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:26 pm

hindi baay + chinki gaarl = chindi bache?
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by sindhu » Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:53 pm

china suxxx ass.. i dint read ne off yalls .. repliess.. but im a hindu and ill f** comment ..



china suxxxxxxxx



china has a very boring governement





china dosent have nething in common with india..

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by CtrlAltDel » Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:26 am

sindhu wrote:china has a very boring governement
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yeah...and Manmohan n sonia entertain us with a rain duet daily...
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by Sharjeel » Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:27 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:
sindhu wrote:china has a very boring governement
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yeah...and Manmohan n sonia entertain us with a rain duet daily...
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by lizard king » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:00 pm

I think there should be more of a competition between India and China, rather than partnership, as it is in the process right now.

And coming to the point of India beign better then China, I think it definitely would, if it tries to compete instead of going in for mutual trade agreement. ther eis no doubt that they are the world leaders in manufacturing right now, and most importantly from the point of view that they are more to promote brand china than work as an outsourcing agent for the west. And this idea of brand china is kicking off big time, as it is cheap(price wise) without much compromise on quality. And coming to the services sector, well, India is th leader, but the question is for how long? Chinese governments are implementing the useage of english as the language of modern communication, they have sponsored "spies" to episonage the economic revolutions and the technological advancements from the modern world, or shall i put it, the capitalist world. In my words, i would say that the chinese are capitalising on the term "communism", just to have an even control over the population whereas give in to capitalist whims, with the introduction o0f private ownership of industry and services. Good on china. Keep rocking guys, while the previous and the present Indian governments have been signing pacts over pacts with our brothers from across the mountains.

So the question thata remains right now is whats gonna happen to India if it makes a pact with china on goods trade with thwie burgeoing production, which would ofcourse our own production or hamper the settign up of brand India. while the smart asses from across the borders champion the language that is giving us an upper hand right now?
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by SeH » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:38 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:
sindhu wrote:china has a very boring governement
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yeah...and Manmohan n sonia entertain us with a rain duet daily...




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by SeH » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:41 pm

ZC go thru this article.....US fears China's rags to riches story



http://www.theage.com.au/news/Business/ ... click=true
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by SeH » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:47 pm

I dont think I was off topic..... even the US of A is shaken by China... I dont know if u cud remember the news of chinese rice hitting Indian markets a few yr back and the govt had to shundown the imports as we had a possiblily of losing the market to them.... I am no t quite sure....

any one to help me here?
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by Lucifer » Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:10 pm

I do not care if China is ahead of India as far as the public perception is concerned. What I do know is that China is not a democracy. And, to me, any country that is not a democracy cannot survive for very long. Any country that can run tanks on its own people (Tinnaman Square) just cannot be a nation we can look up to, in any regard.



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by SeH » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:21 pm

Lucifer wrote:I do not care if China is ahead of India as far as the public perception is concerned. What I do know is that China is not a democracy. And, to me, any country that is not a democracy cannot survive for very long. Any country that can run tanks on its own people (Tinnaman Square) just cannot be a nation we can look up to, in any regard.

If all that development has to come at the cost of me losing my freedom or having to use bicycles to get around, I say to hell with it all.




I agree with u.... My opinion was never to say India lags behind. I was just giving an example. I only intend to say the manufacturing industry of china is far above the ground compared to other nations.
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by Lucifer » Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:50 pm

SeH, never meant for my post to be related to yours. It was just a general reflection of my opinion.
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by lonewolf » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:04 am

Lucifer wrote:to me, any country that is not a democracy cannot survive for very long. Any country that can run tanks on its own people (Tinnaman Square) just cannot be a nation we can look up to, in any regard.




How about countries like Japan, the UK and most of the Arab countries? They all follow dynasties. And all are rich countries and have been surviving for long.
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by Lucifer » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:18 am

lonewolf wrote:How about countries like Japan, the UK and most of the Arab countries? They all follow dynasties. And all are rich countries and have been surviving for long.


Hold it just one moment here. Japan and UK are just figurehead dynasties. The real power rests with the parliament.



And Saudi Arabia? Puhlease! That country has come on the map only in the last 35 years since oil was discovered. How long do you think that oil will last? Besides, where do you think the money for the Jihadis comes from?
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by lonewolf » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:01 am

Lucifer wrote:Hold it just one moment here. Japan and UK are just figurehead dynasties. The real power rests with the parliament.


So what? They still have a royalty. Let them retire the royalty and make their countries 100% democratic, and then you'll see the difference.

Lucifer wrote:And Saudi Arabia? Puhlease! That country has come on the map only in the last 35 years since oil was discovered. How long do you think that oil will last? Besides, where do you think the money for the Jihadis comes from?




Oil is just one of the sources of income. The Saudi royal family has assets everywhere. The billionaire prince Alwaleed bin Talal holds shares in Fox, Disney and a lot of other businesses in the US and UK. The royal family in Saudi is primarily a business family. If America gets screwed, the Saudi royal family gets screwed. As far as jehadis are concerned, the money comes from organisations and individuals in Saudi and other countries, including India.
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by san » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:10 am

lonewolf wrote:
Lucifer wrote:Hold it just one moment here. Japan and UK are just figurehead dynasties. The real power rests with the parliament.


So what? They still have a royalty. Let them retire the royalty and make their countries 100% democratic, and then you'll see the difference.




What difference do you think it's going to make? None that I can think of.
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by lonewolf » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:04 am

san wrote:
lonewolf wrote:
Lucifer wrote:Hold it just one moment here. Japan and UK are just figurehead dynasties. The real power rests with the parliament.


So what? They still have a royalty. Let them retire the royalty and make their countries 100% democratic, and then you'll see the difference.


What difference do you think it's going to make? None that I can think of.




More corruption, to begin with. But I never implied royalty is foolproof.
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by CtrlAltDel » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:15 am

lonewolf wrote:
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lonewolf wrote:
Lucifer wrote:Hold it just one moment here. Japan and UK are just figurehead dynasties. The real power rests with the parliament.
So what? They still have a royalty. Let them retire the royalty and make their countries 100% democratic, and then you'll see the difference.
What difference do you think it's going to make? None that I can think of.
More corruption, to begin with. But I never implied royalty is foolproof.
i agree with san. whether the royalty is there or not, the same bunch of ppl wud be governing. those corrupt now, wud remain corrupt even later and presense or absense of a powerless figurehead king wouldnt make any difference.



abt china, yes, as luci says, its no country to look up to...but what i feel happy abt the chinese is that they are the best to put US in its place these days. just look at Bush and his gang bowing n scraping whenever the chinese frown....:D



as for the saudis, their good days wud end as soon as the oil is exhausted. a rich royal family cannot keep a country prosperous...they need industries n businesses runnign in the country.



the state to be emulated in the Gulf is Dubai....despite lack of sufficient oil compared to nearby countries, Dubai's enlightened rulers had the foresight to develop it as a tourist/commercial/corporate destination and thats why it can tide over any oil slump in future.
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by lizard king » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:45 pm

Lucifer wrote:I do not care if China is ahead of India as far as the public perception is concerned. What I do know is that China is not a democracy. And, to me, any country that is not a democracy cannot survive for very long. Any country that can run tanks on its own people (Tinnaman Square) just cannot be a nation we can look up to, in any regard.

If all that development has to come at the cost of me losing my freedom or having to use bicycles to get around, I say to hell with it all.




i disagree with a few of ur opinions

firstly, when we talk about India vs china, who cares if those ass holes do not have freedom as long as they are sloggign their asses for their country s development? and tomorrow if they take ove the global economy and hijcak our exports, who will be resposnible?

just cos a govermnet murdered a few hundred revolutionaries, does nt mean that it is inefficient. If we look from th government s point of view, its just like killing the naxals in India (here we are talking about people who do not believe or live in the main stream or who chose to walk the other paths). what abaout all those civilisations whose foundations are based on genocide (Pommes, Americans... do u hear me?)



all that concerns me is that India, strategically and internally. and both are inter-related.
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