Fahrenheit 9/11

[Habitual Perfectionist]

In the age of coalition politics, you cannot expect any government to deliver on all the points they wanted to. I personally feel, and there is not a single fact to prove otherwise, that Dr.MMS is beyond reproach as far as character is concerned. And he has acted upon his moral strength and conviction more than once. Standing up to the commies is no easy task.

Er, the point always is what a premier has done to the people and country. Who cares about his morality and character when the country does not run on them? I would anyday prefer a characterless and immoral prime minister who's doing good to the country over some spotless person who 'wants' to do good for the country but spends his entire term standing upto the _ from his own party.

Where do you all get these ideas from?

[Jaan]

-> Wow .. You werent alive in 1988-1991 ??? That makes u a very well informed, earning 12 yr old in the USA, which in reality doesnt exsist..

Ha ha. You so funny! You got me!
Assuming that Aqua is a peer, I meant that we both were kids back then. I truly didn’t care who was governing at 12 years old, were you? That type of thing.

- Agreed that you can't pull out of a war. But who started the war in the first place. And US did pullout of wars previously - remember Vietnam. And your reason for continued American presence in Iraq is as imaginative as "Bush original speak". America went into Irag saying its a danger to the world and now it stays there saying Iraq will be a greater danger if US pulls out. This beats Kerry flip-flop hundred times over.
- And this war started two years back with Afghanistan and you say 2 more years, that means a total of 4 yrs of war out of the 8 yrs Dubya spends in office. This guy really missed out on war games in his childhood.

I didn’t say that you had to believe in my reasons for the war. I thought the war in question was Iraq. Afghanistan was over the minute Iraq started, although I think they have some troops and some covert operations are taking place. I admit that it does sound silly if you think about that Iraq was a great danger to US, and now more if they pull out. Can you imagine the consequences if they pull out right now?

At war times, I would rather stick with someone I know. The potential is always greater for screwing up if that someone is new at the job.

But maybe he will wrap it up sooner because Dubya's cabinet is changing right now.



Jaan

[Aquarian81]

Its unfortunate that Bush Jr. will occupy the White House for the next four years.

for some. i like my tax break

Enjoy them all you want honey, Im glad there's atleast one person who can benefit from it. By the way, I dont figure in the wealthiest 10% to enjoy the tax break. My parents do, but I am a working student, and Im not in the higher tax bracket---yet. Plus, I care for others who struggle at tax time to pay their taxes, because I work in a law & accounting firm.

The statements he makes are usually fuzzy and retarded, but I guess people find his flaws normal. Most of the votes came from southern states, where people are religious and see him as a 'good 'ol down home, ranch-raised religious boy. He tends to use God a lot in his speeches, addresses, debates, etc which won him many hearts as well as votes.

I noticed that you had strong religious opinions yourself. So what if what he belives in tend to show in his speech? What he does say comes from his heart and his faith.

Fortunately I am a religious person, at the same time I am not the president. In this country we believe in the seperation of church and state. Plus, where in my quote did I say I was against him using religion in his speeches?? I meant he used religion as a tool for extra votes.

His twin daughters took after him---they are drunkards and party animals to the max and were pulled over by police twice for DUI, the younger one was arrested for DUI once. Bush SR. was known to enjoy one too many cocktails himself.

If you didn't notice: all the rich people are like that, and unfortunately for them these people got caught. Tabloids and newspapers love that kind of gossip. The twins have nothing to do with their father's way of running thecountry. I am sorry if you were looking for them to be your role models. And, don't speak about Bush Sr. None of us was alive when he was president so your argument is not justified.

Im sorry sweety, my family is very wealthy and we associate with other wealthy Americans, French, Pakistani, Middle Eastern, etc families as well and most of them are not like the Bush family.
And why the hell would I look up to the Bush twins as role models???? Duniya mein kya itne achhe logoon ki kami hogayi hai kya? My role models are listed in my signature, please read them and also add Oprah to my list.
Also, I didnt realize how young you are beta, I was born in 1981 which makes it a good 8 years before Sr. was elected as president.

Anyway, all I care about is the end of the war. If he can do that (which is like asking pigs to fly backwards) then I will have no problem with him being president.

Whether you agree or disagree with the war, you CANNOT pull out of a war and leave the country alone! That is simply not done! You need to leave when the country can fend for itself against all the insurgencies and etc. To o many groups will spring for the vacant power and destroy the country all over again.

I can bet my paycheck that you dont have ANY background info as to WHY this war is being fought. Let me know if you'd like unbiased information on the war. 'The Charlotte Observer' is an excellent source for such news. Enlighten yourself Jaan.

Also the gas prices are a big concern nationwide, I hate paying $2.29 a gallon. He should stabalize the economy, provide health plans for the elderly and children and increase the teacher's pay, whicle funding public schools.

This country is AT WAR. I repeat, AT WAR. At wartimes, all the prices go up and economy fluctuates accordingly. Every business is discovering the profits of outsourcing, so money needed here is being diverted. I don't hear anyone complaining over the cheap prices of products, would you be willing to pay at least 75% more for products/service just so they are "in America" instead of another country? I think not.

No comment, again, enlighten yourself.

These are things needed immediately-------SO GET TO WORK COUNTRY BOY!!

He is. And he cannot do any work if there are so many that disagree with him. Give him some time, likely he will wrap up the war the first two years of his second term and the next two, he will focus on the other objectives.

Yeah right, I believe you like I believe this war is being fought with good intent.............scoff, scoff

Jaan

[enigma]

Farenheit 9/11 has definetely succeeded in creating a dialogoue, that was what this film had intended to do in the first place. The first 15-20 mins is an eye opener the facts are there. This film by Michael Moore helps uncover the truth. Michael Moore has just scratched the surface. Its a good attempt to show the real side of the US policies towards Iraq.



Its a thought provoking statement on the events that led to the war in iraq. The film though some may argue is biased but the bulk of it appears to be factually correct. Its thought provoking and at times disturbing, this movie should be seen by everyone, regardless of political affiliation.

[Jaan]

Its unfortunate that Bush Jr. will occupy the White House for the next four years.

for some. i like my tax break

Enjoy them all you want honey, Im glad there's atleast one person who can benefit from it. By the way, I dont figure in the wealthiest 10% to enjoy the tax break. My parents do, but I am a working student, and Im not in the higher tax bracket---yet. Plus, I care for others who struggle at tax time to pay their taxes, because I work in a law & accounting firm.

You can call me by my FH name Jaan. I am not HONEY, SWEETY or BETA to you. Do not take that patronizing tone with me. Also, read through all the posts after I replied to yours. Obviously you haven’t, so Enlighten yourself, Aqua.

I am a working student too. Why is everyone still quoting Gore’s logo for 2000? Tax breaks are a great incentive for the rich to reinvest back into the economy. That is the Republicans way of handling finances. The Democrats tend to lean towards socialistic way of spending money. Moving on…

The statements he makes are usually fuzzy and retarded, but I guess people find his flaws normal. Most of the votes came from southern states, where people are religious and see him as a 'good 'ol down home, ranch-raised religious boy. He tends to use God a lot in his speeches, addresses, debates, etc which won him many hearts as well as votes.

I noticed that you had strong religious opinions yourself. So what if what he belives in tend to show in his speech? What he does say comes from his heart and his faith.

Fortunately I am a religious person, at the same time I am not the president. In this country we believe in the seperation of church and state. Plus, where in my quote did I say I was against him using religion in his speeches?? I meant he used religion as a tool for extra votes.

This country also believes in free speech. Kerry also used his war record as a tool to get extra votes. They are politicians, that’s their job – to get the extra votes.

His twin daughters took after him---they are drunkards and party animals to the max and were pulled over by police twice for DUI, the younger one was arrested for DUI once. Bush SR. was known to enjoy one too many cocktails himself.

If you didn't notice: all the rich people are like that, and unfortunately for them these people got caught. Tabloids and newspapers love that kind of gossip. The twins have nothing to do with their father's way of running thecountry. I am sorry if you were looking for them to be your role models. And, don't speak about Bush Sr. None of us was alive when he was president so your argument is not justified.

Im sorry sweety, my family is very wealthy and we associate with other wealthy Americans, French, Pakistani, Middle Eastern, etc families as well and most of them are not like the Bush family.

I meant the rich population’s lifestyle in general. Of course not everyone is like the Bush family. I am not a close family friend of the Bush's, just what I read in newspapers etc. too and those sources live to sensationalize every little detail that is negative.

And why the hell would I look up to the Bush twins as role models???? Duniya mein kya itne achhe logoon ki kami hogayi hai kya? My role models are listed in my signature, please read them and also add Oprah to my list.
Also, I didnt realize how young you are beta, I was born in 1981 which makes it a good 8 years before Sr. was elected as president.

I already answered this query when asked by another FH member in this thread. Enlighten yourself, Aqua.

Anyway, all I care about is the end of the war. If he can do that (which is like asking pigs to fly backwards) then I will have no problem with him being president.

Whether you agree or disagree with the war, you CANNOT pull out of a war and leave the country alone! That is simply not done! You need to leave when the country can fend for itself against all the insurgencies and etc. Too many groups will spring for the vacant power and destroy the country all over again.

I can bet my paycheck that you dont have ANY background info as to WHY this war is being fought. Let me know if you'd like unbiased information on the war. 'The Charlotte Observer' is an excellent source for such news. Enlighten yourself Jaan.

You lose your paycheck, I get my news from The Economist and BBC News. Do they pass your "Charlottle Observer" standards? There is no such thing as “unbiased information.” You are always reading someone else’s opinion on paper.
And, you disagree with everything that is Bush and yet you are willing to accept him if he stops the war?

Also the gas prices are a big concern nationwide, I hate paying $2.29 a gallon. He should stabalize the economy, provide health plans for the elderly and children and increase the teacher's pay, whicle funding public schools.

This country is AT WAR. I repeat, AT WAR. At wartimes, all the prices go up and economy fluctuates accordingly. Every business is discovering the profits of outsourcing, so money needed here is being diverted. I don't hear anyone complaining over the cheap prices of products, would you be willing to pay at least 75% more for products/service just so they are "in America" instead of another country? I think not.

No comment, again, enlighten yourself.

No comment.

These are things needed immediately-------SO GET TO WORK COUNTRY BOY!!

He is. And he cannot do any work if there are so many that disagree with him. Give him some time, likely he will wrap up the war the first two years of his second term and the next two, he will focus on the other objectives.

Yeah right, I believe you like I believe this war is being fought with good intent.............scoff, scoff

Jaan

You can believe whatever you want, even that pigs can fly backwards.



Jaan

[Reality,,its here.Accept it.]

Its unfortunate that Bush Jr. will occupy the White House for the next four years.

for some. i like my tax break.

Enjoy them all you want honey, Im glad there's atleast one person who can benefit from it. By the way, I dont figure in the wealthiest 10% to enjoy the tax break. My parents do, but I am a working student, and Im not in the higher tax bracket---yet. Plus, I care for others who struggle at tax time to pay their taxes, because I work in a law & accounting firm.

- We all care for others Aqua. Thats why we are here and discussing issues instead of joining some fanatical association like the ku klux klan or the islamic jihad or the bajrang dal. But caring for 'the others' in no way stops anyone from earning her/his fair share and being happy about it. And i am not sure about this but would love it if u 'enlightened' me here, The tax cut exempts the rich but does it tax the poor more ?? I would like to know more about it. And I would like to hear u complain about paying less taxes when start earning more. Thats not too far off in the future i guess.

The statements he makes are usually fuzzy and retarded, but I guess people find his flaws normal. Most of the votes came from southern states, where people are religious and see him as a 'good 'ol down home, ranch-raised religious boy. He tends to use God a lot in his speeches, addresses, debates, etc which won him many hearts as well as votes.

I noticed that you had strong religious opinions yourself. So what if what he belives in tend to show in his speech? What he does say comes from his heart and his faith.

Fortunately I am a religious person, at the same time I am not the president. In this country we believe in the seperation of church and state. Plus, where in my quote did I say I was against him using religion in his speeches?? I meant he used religion as a tool for extra votes.

- America believes in seperation of church and state ???( i assumed that when you used 'we' you refered to americans) i have only seen that only in print till now never in practise. They have reference to God even on their currency. ( and i think everyone knows who 'God' stands for there ). And everybody uses religion for their own personal gain, so did Bush, big deal.

His twin daughters took after him---they are drunkards and party animals to the max and were pulled over by police twice for DUI, the younger one was arrested for DUI once. Bush SR. was known to enjoy one too many cocktails himself.

If you didn't notice: all the rich people are like that, and unfortunately for them these people got caught. Tabloids and newspapers love that kind of gossip. The twins have nothing to do with their father's way of running thecountry. I am sorry if you were looking for them to be your role models. And, don't speak about Bush Sr. None of us was alive when he was president so your argument is not justified.

Im sorry sweety, my family is very wealthy and we associate with other wealthy Americans, French, Pakistani, Middle Eastern, etc families as well and most of them are not like the Bush family.
And why the hell would I look up to the Bush twins as role models???? Duniya mein kya itne achhe logoon ki kami hogayi hai kya? My role models are listed in my signature, please read them and also add Oprah to my list.
Also, I didnt realize how young you are beta, I was born in 1981 which makes it a good 8 years before Sr. was elected as president.

- You are lucky that you are in good company,Aqua. but Jaan's observation isnt too of the mark. well Aqua at 8 yrs of age you were thinking world politics instead of barbie dolls ??? way to go.......

Anyway, all I care about is the end of the war. If he can do that (which is like asking pigs to fly backwards) then I will have no problem with him being president.

Whether you agree or disagree with the war, you CANNOT pull out of a war and leave the country alone! That is simply not done! You need to leave when the country can fend for itself against all the insurgencies and etc. To o many groups will spring for the vacant power and destroy the country all over again.

I can bet my paycheck that you dont have ANY background info as to WHY this war is being fought. Let me know if you'd like unbiased information on the war. 'The Charlotte Observer' is an excellent source for such news. Enlighten yourself Jaan.

- This is a very very debatable topic as to why the war is going on. And i think everyone has some amount of truth in each of their reasons. And if u strongly believe in something then i think its better to share it with people around you than just direct them to 'enlighten' themshelves. And its a bad gambling habit to underestimate your opponent.

Also the gas prices are a big concern nationwide, I hate paying $2.29 a gallon. He should stabalize the economy, provide health plans for the elderly and children and increase the teacher's pay, whicle funding public schools.

This country is AT WAR. I repeat, AT WAR. At wartimes, all the prices go up and economy fluctuates accordingly. Every business is discovering the profits of outsourcing, so money needed here is being diverted. I don't hear anyone complaining over the cheap prices of products, would you be willing to pay at least 75% more for products/service just so they are "in America" instead of another country? I think not.

No comment, again, enlighten yourself.

- The original point and the response and the no comment ,, all this left me totally confused. Are both of you talking about the same issue??

These are things needed immediately-------SO GET TO WORK COUNTRY BOY!!

He is. And he cannot do any work if there are so many that disagree with him. Give him some time, likely he will wrap up the war the first two years of his second term and the next two, he will focus on the other objectives.

Yeah right, I believe you like I believe this war is being fought with good intent.............scoff, scoff

- well lets all hope that he can do some real work this time coz he doesnt have to worry about a re-election and stop leading the whole world on a wild goose chase for non-exsistent treaths and weapons.

[Aquarian81]

The Charlotte Observer is well known for its unbiased journalism, and yes there is such a thing as unbiased news, maybe you can read up on where to find it.



I was NEVER into Barbie in my lifetime. A tomboy as a young girl, and by 1991 my dad had already subscribed to Time, Newsweek and USA Today, which we read by the way. I might not have understood everything at that age, but I knew what was going on and what was being done.



Taxes, taxes, taxes, thats what I work around every day. I have never seen anyone as happy as Jaan to pay or recieve her tax break. Even our client who earns $ 375,000 a year, the tax break applies to him but makes absolutely no difference to him. He whines, cries, throws tantrums and shouts just like everyone else at tax time.



Bush Jr. can use any tool he wants to earn votes, I simply stated the fact. Even if the currency has God on it, it doesnt mean we dont believe in the seperation of church and state or that the church will start ruling the country.



The war doesnt have one reason I can state, it has several. Too many reasons, faults, miscalculations, statements, speculation are to blame for the war. But one statement from Bush Jr. still haunts many, that he will finish off where his dad left off with the Iran-Iraq situation.

After 9/11, he shouldve gone after Bin Laden, not Saddam.

[Aquarian81]

^^^^^^

My bad, I posted that on SS's ID.

[SimarikSmokin]

We are at war for no reason, poor innocent people are dying in iraq, and no they are not terrorist there. i hate bush for going to war for no reason. And also this whole country hates muslim people supposedly we all are "Terrorists" now if one american is bad that means all american are bad right??? I do wish Kerry won president, i dont want Republican running this country.

[Jaan]

We are at war for no reason,

Debateable.

poor innocent people are dying in iraq, and no they are not terrorist there.

Agreed but war always has civilian casualities

i hate bush for going to war for no reason. And also this whole country hates muslim people supposedly we all are "Terrorists" now if one american is bad that means all american are bad right???

The "whole" country does not hate muslims and does not see muslims as terrorists. I don't know whom you have been hanging around with. I think people already know or are recognizing that one bad muslim does not equal to all muslims being bad. I never did.

I do wish Kerry won president, i dont want Republican running this country.

I like Kerry too but he could not have accomplished much, and he never said that he was going to stop the war once he was in the office.

[Jaan]

The Charlotte Observer is well known for its unbiased journalism, and yes there is such a thing as unbiased news, maybe you can read up on where to find it.

I was NEVER into Barbie in my lifetime. A tomboy as a young girl, and by 1991 my dad had already subscribed to Time, Newsweek and USA Today, which we read by the way. I might not have understood everything at that age, but I knew what was going on and what was being done.

Taxes, taxes, taxes, thats what I work around every day. I have never seen anyone as happy as Jaan to pay or recieve her tax break. Even our client who earns $ 375,000 a year, the tax break applies to him but makes absolutely no difference to him. He whines, cries, throws tantrums and shouts just like everyone else at tax time.

Bush Jr. can use any tool he wants to earn votes, I simply stated the fact. Even if the currency has God on it, it doesnt mean we dont believe in the seperation of church and state or that the church will start ruling the country.

The war doesnt have one reason I can state, it has several. Too many reasons, faults, miscalculations, statements, speculation are to blame for the war. But one statement from Bush Jr. still haunts many, that he will finish off where his dad left off with the Iran-Iraq situation.
After 9/11, he shouldve gone after Bin Laden, not Saddam.

OK. No comment.



Jaan

[igiveadamn]

We are at war for no reason, poor innocent people are dying in iraq, and no they are not terrorist there.

Well we don't know for a fact if terrorists aren't there. Besides lots of people dying everywhere in the world. More than 100 in spain after twin bombibgs, hundreds of people in Russia and Chechenya, Israel and Palestine. So why worry about others?What about our own backyard? Thousands of innocent people dying in kashmir for no reason too. Let's worry about them instead of worrying about some other country. Like they say - Charity should start at home!

[solosynergy]

We are at war for no reason,

Debateable.

poor innocent people are dying in iraq, and no they are not terrorist there.

Agreed but war always has civilian casualities

i hate bush for going to war for no reason. And also this whole country hates muslim people supposedly we all are "Terrorists" now if one american is bad that means all american are bad right???

The "whole" country does not hate muslims and does not see muslims as terrorists. I don't know whom you have been hanging around with. I think people already know or are recognizing that one bad muslim does not equal to all muslims being bad. I never did.

I do wish Kerry won president, i dont want Republican running this country.

I like Kerry too but he could not have accomplished much, and he never said that he was going to stop the war once he was in the office.

being at war being debatable is nonsense. there are people dying,loosing families wealth dreams everything. war kills everything and just brings in horror. the sad part is that as long as u r not in the battlefield u really dont know anything. the president sits in his office and barks out instructions to bombard targets but he is insulated from the actually pain and misery that the people feel.



war has civilian casualities with the superior laser guided systems that the americans claim that they have.interesting.



war is never a solution to a problem. there has to be more than that. killing people just increases hatred among people. y did osama attack the US. just because the americans screwed around earlier though osama is in no way justified. these kind of attrocities happen all over the world but 9/11 was big coz it was on US soil. basically the repercussions of war dont end and they come back and thats what americas is facing. they are raging a war on terror the terror which was unleashed by the americans.

[igiveadamn]

Thought this site is relevant to this discussion. All the Bush haters/dislikers might like it. Besides it is fun for others too!!

http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

[Lucifer]

My two cents.



Except for the 1971 Indo-Pak war (which liberated Bangla people from exploitation, sexual or otherwise, by the Pak soldiers - read a book called 'The Rape of Bangladesh' for more info) no war in history has ever been justified. I quote:



War does not decide who is right. Just who is left.



In the second world war 50 million people were killed. Of that number, 28 million were Jews. Of the remaining 22 million, more than a third were civilians. God only knows how many people are dying each day in Iraq. And why? Just because a son could carry out to completion what his father could not succed in doing? It is sick, and what is even more perverse is that the guy came back as President.



I always maintained that the general American public was stupid (a fact corroborated by Americans needing to hire other nationalities in their organisation to sustain its existence) but I never thought that they could be self-destructing.

[The Jackal]

Alright guys let it go.I dont think anyoone is gonna read those looong messages(Or maybe ppl will).

[Habitual Perfectionist]

We are at war for no reason, poor innocent people are dying in iraq, and no they are not terrorist there. i hate bush for going to war for no reason. And also this whole country hates muslim people supposedly we all are "Terrorists" now if one american is bad that means all american are bad right??? I do wish Kerry won president, i dont want Republican running this country.

You mean youlove Kerry who is all for giving Pakistan the place of prominence it occupied and in effect, endorse the state sponsored terrorism Pakistan has been indulging in all these years? Double Bloody Standards or should I say Bush whipping is a fashion statement nowadays?

[Reality,,its here.Accept it.]

Do you know why Bush jr. surprises us by passing those tests which we think he will fail miserabely at ?

Because all of us and even the democrats think Bush is stupid, which he might be. But none of realise that he is such a dumb ass that he sincerely believes what he thinks is right with all his head ( what ever little he has ) and his heart.(though it beats for only his own kind). And as the old adage goes - fools rush in where angels dare to tread., he is foolish which also makes him brave. And if you see the positive aspects of Dubya, they are honesty( atleast he believes he is ) and courage ( which is due to his immense wealth of ignorance )., not bad attributes to have when u are leading your country in a war. Therefore Americans ( who think they are at war ) choose a single minded dumb ass to lead them in a war rather than a person who seems to be governed by conscience and knowledge, both of which arent good attributes in a man leading the country in an "imbecile's" war.

[Habitual Perfectionist]

Do you know why Bush jr. surprises us by passing those tests which we think he will fail miserabely at ?
Because all of us and even the democrats think Bush is stupid, which he might be. But none of realise that he is such a dumb ass that he sincerely believes what he thinks is right with all his head ( what ever little he has ) and his heart.(though it beats for only his own kind). And as the old adage goes - fools rush in where angels dare to tread., he is foolish which also makes him brave. And if you see the positive aspects of Dubya, they are honesty( atleast he believes he is ) and courage ( which is due to his immense wealth of ignorance )., not bad attributes to have when u are leading your country in a war. Therefore Americans ( who think they are at war ) choose a single minded dumb ass to lead them in a war rather than a person who seems to be governed by conscience and knowledge, both of which arent good attributes in a man leading the country in an "imbecile's" war.

Conscience : The awareness of a moral or ethical aspect to one's conduct together with the urge to prefer right over wrong. Senator Kerry demonstrated ample of this quality when he indulged in personal attacks on his adversary.



Knowledge : Familiarity, awareness, or understanding gained through experience or study. Senator Kerry's knowledge on crucial topics like the effect of outsourcing on the economy and South Asia would put a second grader in a state of orgasmic elation on achievement.



I repeat what I said earlier......Americans had a pitiful choice to make in this election.

[SimarikSmokin]

hp should just become Bill o Reilly, he sounds like him, and he does that no spin zone. and he has a negative energy.



and like i always say Thanks for your pearls of wisdom.

[Aquarian81]

We are at war for no reason,

Debateable.

Aquarian: Its debateable only if you dont have the facts straight. Its all cut and dry if you know the history of the wars.

poor innocent people are dying in iraq, and no they are not terrorist there.

Agreed but war always has civilian casualities

Aquarian: Typical right wing jargon.

i hate bush for going to war for no reason. And also this whole country hates muslim people supposedly we all are "Terrorists" now if one american is bad that means all american are bad right???

The "whole" country does not hate muslims and does not see muslims as terrorists. I don't know whom you have been hanging around with. I think people already know or are recognizing that one bad muslim does not equal to all muslims being bad. I never did.

Aquarian: Id like to hear what you would say after your phone lines were being tapped for 2 years Jaan.

I do wish Kerry won president, i dont want Republican running this country.

I like Kerry too but he could not have accomplished much, and he never said that he was going to stop the war once he was in the office.

Aquarian: On August 20, Kerry was at my university and he spelled out exactly what his intention was regrding the war, and that is to keep only the necessary number of troops and bring back the rest, and put a halt to the war the best way he can. I call that a plan.



Bush spoke at my university exactly a month later and all he could do was beat around the bush.........no pun intended. I dont hate Bush jr. at all, its his dad I dont like. I also had the opportunity to meet the First Lady, and she is a women who I respect and admire deeply. She is the one who convinced me to look into a career as a teacher (in her speech that I attended). But I still would never vote for Bush, which I didnt.

[Reality,,its here.Accept it.]

well i read somewhere that America was more at war under Democratic rule than under Republican rule. just thought i did share it with you. Dont know how much truth there is in it ?