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by JOhnny » Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:05 am

Hey you, what do u want from me? Money? or Brain? let me breathe, u keep talking otherwise i would Run like hell.
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by JustaLittleUnwell » Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:51 am

Mother, why should all posts start with 'Hey you"? Goodbye blue sky, Goodbye Cruel world
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by Johnny » Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:31 pm

In one of my turns, when there is nobody home i wud put The thin ice In the flesh and run like hell, so stop the trial, and go outside the wall, waiting for worms and filling up ur empty spaces
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by azazel » Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:19 pm

either of u Syd Barret :?:
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by Xiaowind » Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:04 pm

Pardon my innocent but WHAT is PF? :oops:
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by azazel » Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:10 pm

Xiaowind wrote:Pardon my innocent but WHAT is PF? :oops:




Pink Floyd dude..
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by Johnny » Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:35 pm

azazel wrote:either of u Syd Barret :?:


Utta scene nahin hai rey(Syd Barret tho GOD hai miya)... aisaaaecch hun mai, :P bas kuch tho kaama karte rahtaa.. :lol:

So before smoke gets into your eyes, tell me have u really loved a woman? have u ever been in the House of the rising sun, to save the last dance in a groovy kind of love, and hoping It must have been love leading to Another day in paradise.

8) 8) 8)
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by azazel » Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:54 pm

Johnny wrote:Utta scene nahin hai rey(Syd Barret tho GOD hai miya)... aisaaaecch hun mai, :P bas kuch tho kaama karte rahtaa.. :lol:
So before smoke gets into your eyes, tell me have u really loved a woman? have u ever been in the House of the rising sun, to save the last dance in a groovy kind of love, and hoping It must have been love leading to Another day in paradise.
8) 8) 8)




looks like ur a true blue Floydian.. do u know what happened to Syd Barret man??
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by Johnny » Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:09 pm

Roger Keith "Syd" Barrett was born on January 6, 1946 to his father, Arthur Max Barrett, and mother, Winefred Flack-Barrett. Early on in life, Syd showed signs of musical interest. He began playing the ukulele then the banjo, and finally found the guitar (his favorite was his famous mirrored telecaster). One of Syd's mentors of the guitar was David Gilmour, who eventually replaced him in the Pink Floyd. When the Pink Floyd were first starting out, they were called the Arcitectural Abdabs(Syd wasn't with the band then). In 1967, bassist Roger Waters brought syd to play guitar for them. The memebers of the Abdabs thought Syd was too weird because he had done acid. They changed their name to The Pink Floyd. Syd had got the name from two blues albums he had liked; one was called Pink Anderson and the other was called Floyd Council. In 1968, Syd began showing signs that he had taken too many drugs. He began forgetting lyrics and guitar riffs while on stage. One time, while playing on a show called "Top of the Pops"(the English version of American Band Stand), Syd didn't even attempt to sing or play. He just stood there and the band had to play around him. There are even stories of Syd crushing up pills and putting them in his hair gel. Not too long after that, the other members of the band contacted David Gilmour and asked him to play on stage with them. Eventually, Syd was totally phased out of the band and David Gilmour took over completely. No material was ever recorded with both Syd and David in the band even thought for a while they were both members. Pink Floyd's second album "A Saucer Full of Secrets" contains some tracks with Syd and some tracks with David, but no songs with both of them. Syd lived with his mother in seclustion until she died in 1991 and now, according to most accounts, he now resides with his aunt. According to David Gilmour it's tough to communicate with him because he's almost totally incoherent(he's been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia).

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by azazel » Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:19 pm

so, ur not Syd afterall.. :( what a disappointment :!:



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by Johnny » Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:48 pm

azazel wrote:so, ur not Syd afterall.. :( what a disappointment :!:
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No.. sadly :( , i can be a similar one sans the Drug abuse :D
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by azazel » Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:56 pm

Johnny wrote:No.. sadly :( , i can be a similar one sans the Drug abuse :D




similar, as in what then??

guitar playin/songwritin :P
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by Xiaowind » Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:42 pm

azazel, Thank You for telling me what is PF, You Make Me Feel that i was Fool Again, i like Westlife, it is just the Queen of My Heart, so let me Try Again, and Don't Say It's Too Late.
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Oracle CEO's "Drop Out" Lecture ... The Truth / Sp

by Happy Hyderabadi » Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:18 pm

Thank You: Umesh Unnikrishnan [umeshu@microsoft.com]

For what it's worth, Larry Ellison never said all this. It's just an urban legend. Check:

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/ellison.htm

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blellison.htm





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Larry Ellison's Speech to Yale Class of 2000

An email text circulating since June 2000 purports to contain a commencement address given by Oracle's flamboyant CEO, Larry Ellison, to Yale's Class of 2000. Here's a snippet of that alleged speech:

As I look out before me today, I don't see a thousand hopes for a bright tomorrow. I don't see a thousand future leaders in a thousand industries. I see a thousand losers.

What can you expect? Loser. Loserhood. Loser cum laude....

The speech goes on in that vein before closing abruptly with Ellison chiding the bodyguards who are supposedly dragging him off the stage.

Is this true? It's truly funny, but it's not factual.

Larry Ellison was not at Yale University's graduation ceremony in May 2000. There was no guest speaker there in fact. There was a keynote speaker, however, and that was journalist Bob Woodward, who graduated from Yale in 1965, and is now well known for his Watergate Scandal reporting for the Washington Post. And not even he said any of the things in the missive above.

The material in question is simply a funny that made its first appearance on the SatireWire Website.

A friend of a friend of somebody's friend, and possibly several such somebodies, then copied and pasted the text from the SatireWire web page into email, without providing proper attribution as to either the article's copyrighted source, or its author, Andrew Marlatt. But it's out there in suggestive email forwards for all the world to guffaw at and ask about, from now until kingdom come.

These things just happen.

– Peter Kohler

Further reading:

Ellison to Grads: Diplomas Are for Losers

Full text of the original piece by Andrew Marlatt

The Vonnegut MIT Commencement Address

Another speech that never was and the inspiration for the hit "Sunscreen Song."





Peter Kohler is a writer and researcher based in Portland, Oregon

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Claim: While delivering the commencement speech at Yale University in 2000, Oracle CEO Larry Ellison said:



"Graduates of Yale University, I apologize if you have endured this type of prologue before, but I want you to do something for me. Please, take a good look around you. Look at the classmate on your left. Look at the classmate on your right. Now, consider this: five years from now, 10 years from now, even 30 years from now, odds are the person on your left is going to be a loser. The person on your right, meanwhile, will also be a loser. And you, in the middle? What can you expect? Loser. Loserhood. Loser Cum Laude."

Status: False.

Origins: In July 2000, an inventive story about Oracle CEO Larry Ellison bestowing an unusual commencement speech upon the graduating class of Yale University began popping up in various inboxes. Some were left wondering if this could be the real thing, given what is known of Ellison's famed ego, and because the wide circulation of the 1997 Kurt Vonnegut commencement speech hoax had prepared the way for this piece to sound plausible.

In truth, Ellison did not give a such a speech at Yale, nor anywhere else. The article was the fanciful creation of Andrew Marlatt, a writer for the satire website, SatireWire. It was reprinted (with SatireWire's express permission) on BBspot, another satirical web site.

The full text of the piece:

ELLISON TO GRADS: DIPLOMAS ARE FOR LOSERS

Oracle CEO Urges Students to Drop out, Start up

NEW HAVEN, CONN. (SatireWire.com) - In one of the more controversial commencement addresses in memory, Oracle CEO and college dropout Larry Ellison told Yale's Class of 2000 they were "losers" whose hard-won diplomas would never propel them into the ranks of the super rich.

The evangelical Ellison, noting that college dropouts Bill Gates, Paul Allen, and Michael Dell were, like himself, on Forbes' recent top 10 list of billionaires, urged freshmen and sophomores at the ceremony to "drop out and start up," and added that the undereducated Yale security guards who ushered him off stage probably had a better shot at uber-wealth than graduating seniors.

What follows is a transcript of the speech delivered by Ellison at the Yale University last month:

Graduates of Yale University, I apologize if you have endured this type of prologue before, but I want you to do something for me. Please, take a ood look around you. Look at the classmate on your left. Look at the classmate on your right. Now, consider this: five years from now, 10 years from now, even 30 years from now, odds are the person on your left is going to be a loser. The person on your right, meanwhile, will also be a loser. And you, in the middle? What can you expect? Loser. Loserhood. Loser Cum Laude.

"In fact, as I look out before me today, I don't see a thousand hopes for a bright tomorrow. I don't see a thousand future leaders in a thousand industries. I see a thousand losers.

"You're upset. That's understandable. After all, how can I, Lawrence 'Larry' Ellison, college dropout, have the audacity to spout such heresy to the graduating class of one of the nation's most prestigious institutions? I'll tell you why. Because I, Lawrence "Larry" Ellison, second richest man on the planet, am a college dropout, and you are not.

"Because Bill Gates, richest man on the planet -- for now, anyway -- is a college dropout, and you are not.

"Because Paul Allen, the third richest man on the planet, dropped out of college, and you did not.

"And for good measure, because Michael Dell, No. 9 on the list and moving up fast, is a college dropout, and you, yet again, are not.

"Hmm . . . you're very upset. That's understandable. So let me stroke your egos for a moment by pointing out, quite sincerely, that your diplomas were not attained in vain. Most of you, I imagine, have spent four to five years here, and in many ways what you've learned and endured will serve you well in the years ahead. You've established good work habits. You've established a network of people that will help you down the road. And you've established what will be lifelong relationships with the word 'therapy.' All that of is good. For in truth, you will need that network. You will need those strong work habits. You will need that therapy.

"You will need them because you didn't drop out, and so you will never be among the richest people in the world. Oh sure, you may, perhaps, work your way up to No. 10 or No. 11, like Steve Ballmer. But then, I don't have to tell you who he really works for, do I? And for the record, he dropped out of grad school. Bit of a late bloomer.

"Finally, I realize that many of you, and hopefully by now most of you, are wondering, 'Is there anything I can do? Is there any hope for me at all?' Actually, no. It's too late. You've absorbed too much, think you know too much. You're not 19 anymore. You have a built-in cap, and I'm not referring to the mortar boards on your heads.

"Hmm... you're really very upset. That's understandable. So perhaps this would be a good time to bring up the silver lining. Not for you, Class of '00. You are a write-off, so I'll let you slink off to your pathetic $200,000-a-year jobs, where your checks will be signed by former classmates who dropped out two years ago.

"Instead, I want to give hope to any underclassmen here today. I say to you, and I can't stress this enough: leave. Pack your things and your ideas and don't come back. Drop out. Start up.

"For I can tell you that a cap and gown will keep you down just as surely as these security guards dragging me off this stage are keeping me down . . ."

The last line of the piece should have given away the joke, if nothing else did. Larry Ellison being dragged off a stage is a satisfying mental image to contemplate and provides a wonderful closing for a piece that would otherwise be difficult to orchestrate an ending for, but that's all it ever could be, even if Ellison had addressed the Yale Class of 2000 and had given that speech. (Which, by the way, he hadn't).

Venerable institutions of higher learning have at times chosen keynote speakers they've later had cause to regret. The price of turning the podium over to another is having to listen politely to the entirety of his address, even if it is offensive. Audiences are still expected to clap at its culmination, and whoever introduced the speaker is still on the hook for thanking him for his insights. Such are the demands of a polite society, with security guards standing poised to remove invited guests who give voice to unpopular sentiments not figuring anywhere into the equation.

Should there still be any remnant of doubt about the veracity of the article in question, Yale didn't have a guest speaker at its 299th graduation ceremony, held in May 2000. Yale seniors received a more personal address on Class Day, another part of this two-day commencement ceremony. The keynote speaker for that event was Bob Woodward, who graduated from Yale in 1965. (His investigation of the Watergate break-in helped win a Pulitzer Prize for The Washington Post in 1973.)

Larry Ellison is a prime choice for such lampooning because this thrice-married, thrice-divorced multimillionaire is known for living larger than life. A 1997 unofficial biography was titled The Difference Between God and Larry Ellison: God Doesn't Think He is Larry Ellison.

Barbara "leisure unsuited larry" Mikkelson

Additional information:

SatireWire

BBSpot

Last updated: 29 July 2000



The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/quotes/ellison.htm

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by azazel » Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:44 pm

gr8 research there, sir :!:
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