Who should be shot dead?

by **pal** » Sun May 18, 2003 8:09 pm

The idea of creating this struck me after seeing a posting made by ZC in some other board... and I thought this would make an interesting discussion. The question is: Who should be shot dead to make this world a better place, our India a better place, and our own Andhra Pradesh a better place, and, finally,
our very own Hyderabad a better place? (I guess this ques would not have many answers.)

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I have many names in my mind, but you ppl start... (and plz, no maukish behaviour - why to kill someone etc. etc.)

by **Arch** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:12 am

all the people who are corrupt. Wud any remain?!! whoops..

by **neeraja** » Mon May 19, 2003 1:15 pm

killing oneself (suicide) itself is a Big offence, how can anyone think of killing someone else?? None of us has the right to do that. Not even to think about it. Whatever the cause may be!!!

by **Raj** » Mon May 19, 2003 1:27 pm

yes neeraja, ur right in a way.Why kill someoene to make this place a better one.I believe that first one has to change , then try to change others or anything else.

by **Z C** » Mon May 19, 2003 2:05 pm

Then Ms.neraja and Mr.Raj, should we remove death sentence ? now dont say, the law has said so and hence they have to be hanged.

by **Z C** » Mon May 19, 2003 2:16 pm

Dec 13 2001 is the day i regretted the most as i listened to the news, not bcoz of the attack on parliament, but bcoz the attack was unsuccessful. If it was successful, we would have got two birds at a shot,1.) got rid of the stupid politicians followed by a president rule and 2.) got rid of pakiland

by **Arch** » Mon May 19, 2003 6:11 pm

ZC !! ZC ZC. yes! exactly the same thots passed by after the dec 13th attacks thru most of us. Firstly, the liberals shud be ousted, then the politicians.. those of them who think that \'we, along with them\' shud take things lying down just because \'they\' think so, is utter non-sense. There can be no worser punishment than that, including that of \'hung until death\'. this one is like slow death. \"Oh, how can we kill them? oh, how can we become like them !? we will be no differnt then!\" Its all utter nonsense. \'holier than thou\' attitude while doing the worst stuff and expecting others to live by their rules, eww!

by **neeraja** » Tue May 20, 2003 10:30 am

Yes youa are absolutely right.. death penalty should be abolished... know why.. if the criminal punished by death sentence.. he is just dead.. but keeping him alive in a jail undergoing all the troture he will realise the intensity of the crime he had done...any human being either a saint or criminal will certainly have a concious.. the criminal will not be able to answer to his concious, that is the greatest punishment he can undergo in the jail and just executing him, which is only a few minutes pain...

by **neeraja** » Tue May 20, 2003 2:01 pm

Dear ZC, it\'s us who are the stupids who elected those stupid politicians. Why vote for them?? All of us should boycott the election if we feel they are not capable. I will not agree with you to kill them. After all, they are also humans and they have their families too. Politics is their livelihood. We have no right to wipe them off. The best way is only to boycott the elections, so they are not into power!!!

by **arch** » Wed May 21, 2003 1:22 am

Okay. Being serious about this issue, killing will not be an answer to this problem that we have in India and elsewhere. (What Neeraja suggested is right, but I do not agree w/ her abt the handling of the issue, that time is way way past.) The best that occurs to me is for the vast majority of Indians to be educated in the \'real sense of the term\' and take over various fields of public and pvt. services. Education should include moral values too along with the importance given to culture and family and religion and the lot. What says you all? Guess I may come up with some more answers too as I get to think over. The corruption certainly angers me immensely, there is no doubt of that - yet, we are seeing killings all around in the world, right? The Muslim fanatics are doing nothing more than killing and establishing immense amts of fear, maybe. But they are also foolishly alienating the other Muslim brethren from normal living. They have absolutely no right to do so. Just as the other religious fanatics make the rest of their own brethern undergo similar fate. So, killings are certainly NOT the answer, Pal, ZC.

by **Z C** » Wed May 21, 2003 10:30 am

Lot of Gandhidian stuff, let me ask one thing bluntly. If you are raped, how would you want the guy to be punished ?

by **Arch** » Wed May 21, 2003 9:08 pm

I am a blue belt in takewondo, learning for the past 3 and odd years. I am good enough at defending myself and maybe a few more. I seem to be believing in taking precautionary measures. Inspite of that, am I to be raped, I will shoot him right away. Even if it\'s another woman/child whom I may not even know is raped and I get to know of the culprit, I know I will shoot him, yes. But that\'s my immediate anger that will make me do it. This anger may persist until.. maybe I shoot him? I do not know. What does the law say, though? am I safe with it? will it protect me? do i need to prove myself in so many demeaning ways in probably an open court, that I had been raped !!? well.. maybe, shooting him is the best and just be quiet? I do not know.. This is personal and deals totally with just me and another person. what Pal posted is abt\' the whole country/state and our city, right? identifying those and killing them? how do you go abt\' that? is that practical? how? I do have immense personal anger twds the corruption that persists in our country. Hence the initial reaction of \'shoot them all\'. and the secondry reaction of ,\'on second thought, education..\'

by **pal** » Wed May 21, 2003 9:39 pm

lets not talk of feasibility of things here...bcuz we all know its infeasible....and this is just a discussion which will do no good to the society...except a liitle change in our thinking...the reason i created this board is to identify people who are a hindrance for the development of country/city/state...\"shooting them is way out of question\"...so dont take my question in a literal sense...

by **arch** » Thu May 22, 2003 8:31 am

These discussions do help us think a little more each time and make our thoughts that much more logical, practical, stronger,deeper.. we correct them when we get to know that we may be wrong actually, Pal, the way I did it. we certainly may be able to identify \'those\' people and I guess I just realised that, in fact it could be you and me too ! Surprised? I did bribe somebody or the other when I was in India. whenever I visit India, I do see that the official and most of my personal work is NOT done when I go with just the required papers on my hands. I have to carry cash and yes, ofcourse, if I get to use the known higher authorite\'s\' names, thats\' a WOW! they even salaam me ! If they get to know that I am visiting from US, there\'s a total differnt approach. either I become a king or I am somebody they cannot stand !!

well.. the qt. of corruption in our country hurts me but these discussions make me feel that we may be that much more nearer to the possible answers..? what says u?

by **Z C** » Thu May 22, 2003 10:51 am

u want to shoot the rapist, then y not shoot the corrupt people ? a cheat is a cheat and shooting is shooting

by **Z C** » Thu May 22, 2003 10:57 am

Now, if u agree that we can kill someone, my list is....the current king of Nepal...Bhupendra ?? ...i beleive he killed all his relatives or atleast arranged the killings. Abt politicians in India, all those who follow the Gandhidian philosophy, what do they want us to do, show the back when uve been _ in the front ? and one more, my muslim lecture in college who gave an offday for tuition classes when pakistan won a match against India.

by **CUinHELL** » Thu May 29, 2003 11:29 am

I think u shud shoot and kill ppl who induce such thoughts of shooting, killing and other forms of violence. So...shoot and kill ppl who create such things and those who participate in them! P E A C E - M@#$%R F@#%^&S!!

by **Z C** » Thu May 29, 2003 12:54 pm

ha ha ha . applies to u as well. ha ha ha!!

by **Arch** » Sun Jun 01, 2003 1:26 pm

Cuinhell did not seem to have realised

that he\'s putting his foot in his mouth. hey, it does mean so, nai? they advocate peace by being violent !!

by **Z C** » Sun Jun 01, 2003 1:34 pm

CUin Hell is so sure that hes going to Hell. ha ha ha !!

by **truelies** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 4:45 pm

hey
killing never ended anything..its never gona b..whether its politicians or anyone..its no use..am sure any of if given power wud b equally corrupt if not more..power corrupts..absolute power corrupts the absolute..so do ur things.. cheers

by **Arch** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 9:40 pm

when cleansing is needed, killing is needed too. be it killing of corruption by itself or those who have become diehard at it. it needs to be removed from its deep roots. see what has happened to USSR and the present Russia too ! and what Putin had to say at G8 meeting about his country\'s state. It had been one of the super powers and where is it now? just because of corruption. It is not so bad in USA.. and see where it is.

by **Z C** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:26 pm

dear truelies, u seems like u belong to the genre of the pundits of the Somnath Temple who prayed to God when the Moghuls attacked them !! thanks for ur fundas, i studied Moral Science for so long during primary school and high school. u can become a good MS teacher.

by **krishna** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 3:02 pm

Just pray to god he will do your work

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