I am back... with lots of ♥

by **Shahed with ♥** » Mon Sep 09, 2002 5:36 pm

Hello dear friends..interesting boards are swinging in fullhyd.com n I am very happy to join you and DOT.COM once again. I was caught in a critical and lengthy project ... now it is done successfully n i am tension free n will be with you regularly to pinch you..to share you and Bla Bla .. and Blaaa..

by **democratic man** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 2:58 pm

hi shaheed what do you think about the sep 11 attacks?
tomorrow is the memorial day. what is your programme for tomorrow? can we join hands in the sorrow ?

by **Shahed** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:25 pm

Hey demo-man avcourse I will join my hand with you in sorrow... not only that I will be with those poor , innocents victims also.. in any part of the world who are sacrifising their lives for some others bad deeds or political games , even most of them they dont know why they have been killed.

by **sri** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:30 pm

Hi shahed. You are great. You have given your responce within in 15 minutes. This is the spirit . OK. do you know any official programme in india for this. Are we taking this sorrow real serious?

by **hardc0der** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:34 pm

well democratic man, I don\'t know what september 11 would mean to you or to any other non-american. why does that date have to get popular? is it because the US got battered by a bunch of terrorists for the first time? or is it that because anything small that happens in the US becomes world news? yeah, its true that many innocent people died in the sep 11 attacks, but what about the innocent people murdered in Afghanistan following that? there were more people killed in Afghanistan than were killed in the twin towers. forget all that, look in our own country, our soldiers fight 24/7 with the enemy across the borders and lay down their lives daily so that we can sit in the comfort of our homes, surf the net and have fun all day. nobody has talked about their sacrifices, and here you go talking about september 11, which has literally no relationship with India. I live in the US and I think people are just making a big issue of the september 11th attacks. we have more things at home, back in India, back in Asia, that bother us. sorry if I sound a bit harsh, dude, but it just pisses me whenever people, especially Asians, talk about the september 11th attacks as if it has affected their personal and usual way of life.

by **hardc0der** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:37 pm

hey shahed, welcome back. I just got back from my office and its 4am here. got a part time job as a layout editor in the college newspaper, got the pages ready for the sep 11 stuff, man its soo boring, but can\'t help it.. how are you doing? missed your postings in here.

by **democratic man** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:43 pm

hi hard coder i can understand your feelings . i think the American people should have insulted you because of race etc.but still you know the general feelings are always there. dont talk about the soldiers. i know the thing. have you experienced minus52 degree ever in your life .i have experienced.OK?? i know the pain of the great indian soldiers. any way please go to the memorial site at the newyork city right now and put some flowers on my behalf my countryman.

by **Shahed** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 3:46 pm

hi sri, we are not useless indians, infact we are the most sentimental and emotional and touchy people in the world.
If you want test it then visit any one of the victims home for that day and watch them silently for couple of hours..then you see yourself..I bet you will cry with them. Thats what we are...If you really wanna do something then Join Leo Clubs or Lion Clubs and do some projects for poor people and wipe out their stopless tears..

by **Kulcha Hyderabadi** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 5:15 pm

I share your feelings HardCoder...I\'d have shed a tear or two for all those innocent victims of September 11 attacks, had our friends in US shown little sympathy for those who died and the ones who are still suffering from the Union Carbide disaster. I bet 95% people of US do not even know about this tragedy that happened due to gross negligence on part of the Management. I wish our Government brings Mr. Warren Anderson to India to face the court charges....The Americans can go into any country, arrest people on mere suspicion and take them away to isolated prison camps, detain them for any number of days without trial or charges.........and they can go around the world killing people with impunity, carpet bomb innocent civilians, use spent uranium ammunition, provide F-16\'s to a racist nation to bomb defenseless civilians, walk out of treaties, pollute the world,. etc etc... I dont think they deserve our sympathy. About time we shed this slavish mentality and learn to treat each and every human life, regardless of nationality with same respect.

by **demo man** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 5:50 pm

Mr Kul which country you are telling about F16 is it Israel?

by **hiall** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 2:07 am

congrats hardcoder...for the excellent answer...i was thinkin on the same lines....but unable to come out with a msg..that wud`nt hurt ppl...so i restrained myself from posting....it was good reading ur msg....cheers...!!

by **Faheem** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 3:40 am

Yes demoman.. that is ISRAEL.

by **Faheem** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 3:53 am

Hardcoder, I salute you for the kind of answer you gave.

by **laskar_sikandrabadi** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 5:41 am

Bhai log,
Aap logonka batein se lagtahai ki 911 ko koso kyoki woh America ka baat hain.
Is this antipathi due to this being an US incident?
On a humane level every life lost is irreplacable to the near and dear where ever it happens.

Don\'t we need introspection??

by **hardc0der** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 12:00 pm

Hi guys. Its great to know that many share the same feelings that I do regarding 9-11 or whatever other name it goes by. Demo man, I NEVER faced any racist attack by any American; in fact I have many American friends and there was never any hostility anytime based on my race. In fact, after the attacks, I was a bit apprehensive wondering if there were going to be revenge attacks on us, but nothing of that sort happened. As far as the attacks are concerned, it is definitely sad that so many people were killed because of the cruel acts of a handful. But it is ridiculous to harp on that all along. As Kulcha pointed out the general American is ignorant of the Union carbide incident and other incidents. Most Americans wouldn\'t care for the thousands of people who die regularly following terrorist strikes in other countries. On the other hand, they won\'t mind killing thousands of Afghans, already battered by the SOviets, just to catch one Osama who is not even an Afghan. There are many incidents of US soldiers, posted in other countries, assaulting the local \'third world\' people and some of them even got away with serious crimes like rape and murder. And of course, the US won\'t deport them so that they can be tried and prosecuted. I stopped reading CNN news long ago because it is highly biased. I have read many news articles like this before on CNN - \'some american in the Philippines gets slightly injured in a fire accident\' and they elaborate on it, and in the last two lines of the article you find something like this \'...10 Filipino men were killed in the same fire accident\'.
Well, this just goes to show that people treat an American life with greater respect and give it more value than an Asian life. It is definitely time to get over with the colonial feeling and stand up as yourself. I don\'t want to trivialize the last year\'s terrorist attack in the US, but at this time, my heart goes out to the familes of the victims in the recent train accident and pray that their families cope with the loss.

by **Indian** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 3:11 pm

well said hardcoder..To all these people who say their hearts blled for the WTC victims, I have this to say....\"Yes my heart bleeds too...but for all innocent victims of Imperialist nations...have u seen houses in Palestine? i am talking about simple homes where mortals stay...not high-rises...have u seen them destroyed by Israeli occupiers?By Hi tech F16s and battle tanks?bull dozed to the ground?with women and children wailing and crying? homeless?shelterless? but then no one has coined phrases like \"ground zero\" or \"9/11\" for them...no one has stood among the rubble of their homes and shouited speeches supporting them? Or is it just very fashionable and politically correct to speak about September 11?\"

by **sri** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 3:12 pm

Dear Mr hard, you have covered most of my doubts.Your response is fine.We the resident Indians have always have the soft corner to those working outside.It is fine to note that no racial feelings there.But you know long back one of my friend (a medico )told me about color differences in US. I definitely have no colony feelings now.I know about CNN channels bias nature.But one thing is clear we at times think about the job conditions in India compared to US.Which is better i definitely have no experience.But I have seen lengthy queues(Loooooong) in front of American consulate in Chennai. At times I envied them. But now I have to rethink it seems. I have this doubt what happened to George Michael? hope you have seen that album Shoot the dog.Its nice to note this much freedom over there. bi. lastly the real reason for the train accident is not yet clear now.Works in progress. bi again

by **sri** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 3:19 pm

CORRECTION dear hard, dont feel anything for my question on George Michael .You know I got surprised that MrGeorge micael has depicted MrGeorgebush and MrTony as H..mo.OK Bi

by **Commissioner** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 4:16 pm

Hey Faheem - I have alwasy noticed that you Salute when you get emotional or happy with some postings. Just wondering if you are / were in military / police services.
Let us all know buddy!

by **superintendent** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 4:23 pm

these are the casual (heart felt) words when somebody feel heartfelt happy OK??

by **Commissioner** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 4:58 pm

OHHHHHH I seeeeeeee, this means our soldiers are ever happy and most happy when they see their seniors - then you must be happy too - Superintendent - then why dont you salute!! And when did Faheem suddenly became Superintendent.

by **Shahed** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 5:09 pm

How can you justify this ..That just for few handy people mistakes or to teach them a lesson you kill thousands of inncent civilians. My sympathy with all those innocent humanbeings and their families who sacrifised their lives just bcoz of these FEW people , whether it is US or India or afghanishtaan or Bosnia or Palastine or any other part of the world mass innocent killings should be condemned , Whats their mistake..their mistake is just they belongs to particular COUNTRY.. they belongs to a particular RELIGION or CASTE...their mistake is that their leaders are currupt diplomats..and just for this mistake they have to sacrifise their life..Come on this is not justification, In those 3000 or more deaths many of them were indians , japanese and people from other parts of the world and they were innocents. If tomorrow one of US the participant die in US in similar attack will you laugh... will you blame him as a culprit , criminal or responsible for others death....

by **demoman** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 5:56 pm

there is a big fight between ROGUE STATES and the COUNTRY OF SATAN what is our role inbetween?

by **suprintendant** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 6:05 pm

Yeap ! our soldiers will be very happy when they see GOOD seniors , otherwise they do something else....

by **Commissioner** » Thu Sep 12, 2002 11:17 am

What do they do ?? I think the Senior has a powered stick to screw up juniors if they don\\\'t behave - did u know that?? So better juniors behave right and keep Saluting alright !!

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