RAW

[The Jackal]

Found this interesting article.Never knew our own Intelligence group was so cool.



Research and Analysis Wing [RAW]



The Research and Analysis Wing [RAW] is India's foreign intelligence agency. RAW has become an effective instrument of Indian national power, and has assumed a significant role in carrying out India's domestic and foreign policies. RAW has engaged in espionage against Pakistan and other neighboring countries. It has enjoyed the backing of successive Indian governments in these efforts. Working directly under the Prime Minister, the structure and operations of the Research & Analysis Wing are kept secret from Parliament.



Founded in 1968, RAW focused largely on Pakistan. Its formation was initially motivated by reports of Pakistan supplying weapons to Sikh militants, and providing shelter and training to guerrillas in Pakistan.



Numerous missions were assigned to RAW upon its creation. These included monitoring political and military developments in neighboring countries that affects Indian national security. Consequently, considerable attention is paid by RAW to Pakistan and China, countries that are traditional rivals of India.



RAW has evolved from its origins as a part of the Intelligence Bureau to develop into India's predominant intelligence organization. In 1968, RAW had 250 agents and a budget of Rs. 2 crore. This has expanded to the present day total of an estimated eight to ten thousand agents and a budget that experts place at Rs. 1500 crore, alternately estimated at $145 million.



Pakistan has accused the Research and Analysis Wing of sponsoring sabotage in Punjab, where RAW is alleged to have supported the Seraiki movement, providing financial support to promote its activities in Pakistan and organizing an International Seraiki Conference in Delhi in November-December 1993. RAW has an extensive network of agents and anti-government elements within Pakistan, including dissident elements from various sectarian and ethnic groups of Sindh and Punjab. Published reports in Pakistan allege that as many as 35,000 RAW agents entered Pakistan between 1983-93, with 12,000 working in Sindh, 10,000 in Punjab, 8,000 in North West Frontier Province and 5000 in Balochistan.



RAW has a long history of activity in Bangladesh, supporting both secular forces and the area's Hindu minority. The involvement of RAW in East Pakistan is said to date from the 1960s, when RAW supported Mujibur Rahman, leading up to his general election victory in 1970. RAW also provided training and arms to the Bangladeshi freedom fighters known as Mukti Bahini. RAW's aid was instrumental in Bangladesh's gaining independence from Pakistan in 1971.



During the course of its investigation the Jain Commission received testimony on the official Indian support to the various Sri Lankan Tamil armed groups in Tamil Nadu. From 1981, RAW and the Intelligence Bureau established a network of as many as 30 training bases for these groups in India. Centers were also established at the high-security military installation of Chakrata, near Dehra Dun, and in the Ramakrishna Puram area of New Delhi. This clandestine support to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), some of whom were on the payroll of RAW, was later suspended. Starting in late 1986 the Research and Analysis Wing focused surveillance on the LTTE which was expanding ties with Tamil Nadu separatist groups. Rajiv Gandhi sought to establish good relations with the LTTE, even after the Indian Peace Keeping Force [IPKF] experience in Sri Lanka. But the Indian intelligence community failed to accurately assess the character of the LTTE and its orientation India and its political leaders. The LTTE assassination of Rajiv Gandhi was apparently motivated by fears of a possible re-induction of the Indian Peace Keeping Force (IPKF) in Sri Lanka and a crackdown on the LTTE network in Tamil Nadu.



RAW was heavily criticized in 1999, following the Pakistani incursions at Kargil. Critics accused RAW of failing to provide intelligence that could have prevented the ensuing ten-week conflict that brought India and Pakistan to the brink of full-scale war. While the army has been critical of the lack of information they received, RAW has pointed the finger at the politicians, claiming they had provided all the necessary information. Most Indian officials believe that in order to prevent another such occurrence, communication needs to be increased between the intelligence agencies, which would require structural reform.



Most recently, RAW has gained attention for providing the US with intelligence on Al-Qaeda and Taliban targets for the war on terrorism in Afghanistan. Maps and photographs of terrorist training camps in Afghanistan and Pakistan, along with other evidence implicating Osama bin Laden in terrorist attacks, were given to US intelligence officials.

[~akidna~]

do i have to read the whole thing...i thot it was something related to wrestling

[Sharjeel]

Cool man!



Thanks for the information!

[3 T'z]

:? do i have to read the whole thing...i thot it was something related to wrestling

me 2!! would have been interestin as well..

[The Jackal]

:? do i have to read the whole thing...i thot it was something related to wrestling

Its your call but it is an interesting article.Our Intelligence Agency is really good.Considering that we have about 10000 agents.Even CIA,SIS(MI6),MOSSAD,etc doesnt employ that many agents.

[lizard king]

:? do i have to read the whole thing...i thot it was something related to wrestling

Its your call but it is an interesting article.Our Intelligence Agency is really good.Considering that we have about 10000 agents.Even
CIA,SIS(MI6),MOSSAD,etc doesnt employ that many agents.

but i really wishss we beat our bastard brothers in terms of numbers

[akhilis2cool]

:? do i have to read the whole thing...i thot it was something related to wrestling

Its your call but it is an interesting article.Our Intelligence Agency is really good.Considering that we have about 10000 agents.Even
CIA,SIS(MI6),MOSSAD,etc doesnt employ that many agents.

but i really wishss we beat our bastard brothers in terms of numbers

I suggest we start discussing abt. the various intelligence agencies arnd. the world...I wld, really b interested in knowing abt. them

[lizard king]

:? do i have to read the whole thing...i thot it was something related to wrestling

Its your call but it is an interesting article.Our Intelligence Agency is really good.Considering that we have about 10000 agents.Even
CIA,SIS(MI6),MOSSAD,etc doesnt employ that many agents.

but i really wishss we beat our bastard brothers in terms of numbers

I suggest we start discussing abt. the various intelligence agencies arnd. the world...I wld, really b interested in knowing abt. them

lets start with the best one.... ISI, and the second best... Mossad

[akhilis2cool]

:? do i have to read the whole thing...i thot it was something related to wrestling

Its your call but it is an interesting article.Our Intelligence Agency is really good.Considering that we have about 10000 agents.Even
CIA,SIS(MI6),MOSSAD,etc doesnt employ that many agents.

but i really wishss we beat our bastard brothers in terms of numbers

I suggest we start discussing abt. the various intelligence agencies arnd. the world...I wld, really b interested in knowing abt. them

lets start with the best one.... ISI, and the second best... Mossad

arrey yaar post something abt. them...

[The Jackal]

:? do i have to read the whole thing...i thot it was something related to wrestling

Its your call but it is an interesting article.Our Intelligence Agency is really good.Considering that we have about 10000 agents.Even
CIA,SIS(MI6),MOSSAD,etc doesnt employ that many agents.

but i really wishss we beat our bastard brothers in terms of numbers

I suggest we start discussing abt. the various intelligence agencies arnd. the world...I wld, really b interested in knowing abt. them

Yeah thats why I opened this thread.

[ycr007]

I think The CIA's the Tops Followed by the erstwhile KGB and Mossad



ISI is widely known though bcoz of its "Activities" but it has the penetration

and surveillance capabnilites i doubt.....



Also i heard somewhere that NSA is the "baap" of CIA....

[lizard king]

I think The CIA's the Tops Followed by the erstwhile KGB and Mossad

ISI is widely known though bcoz of its "Activities" but it has the penetration
and surveillance capabnilites i doubt.....

Also i heard somewhere that NSA is the "baap" of CIA....

CIA does have a very good penetration, but the capablity of the CIA has gone down a lot with the end of the cold war and i think it is the same thing with the non existantial KGb as well. but the one organisation that has maintained its position is the british intelligence MI6 and the mossad. the mossad has been very practical in elimination of their opposition and not to mention, for a small jewish state to exist in the middle of powrful arab empires, they have to be on their heels all the time. even the way they function is very simple, no matter where the agents go, they have jewsih help and no matter which country a jew belongs to, he first is a jew than a citizen of the country, so he has to pay his loyalty to Israel, this is the sentiment, taken full advantage by the MOSSAD.

coming to CIA, they do have a very good penetration, but at the same time, they have the worst counter intelligence, which is one aspect RAW is really good in. if the CIA were to be any better, there would nt have been a 911 or the pakis having the nukes or communism in latin america.



lastly about the CIA, there is no doubt , that they have one of the best penetration and target achievement, imagine their capability to sustain an armed struggle in kashmir for the past 20 years and also a lot of other activites in other parts of our country, and here is no doubt that they make use of the religion trump card to penetrate deep into the society.



Coming to RAW, well, firstly, it is more stragetic and well organised in associating with the other agencies of the world, but penetration, i am not very sure of it, some say it is responsible for the Sunni-Shia clashes through out pakistan, but what about the sunni shia clashes else where in the world? so it is more general, and yeah, they do have a good network in central asia aand afganistan. no doubt about it.

[The Jackal]

I think The CIA's the Tops Followed by the erstwhile KGB and Mossad

ISI is widely known though bcoz of its "Activities" but it has the penetration
and surveillance capabnilites i doubt.....

Also i heard somewhere that NSA is the "baap" of CIA....

Well the NSA is mostly operated within the country.So they have more power in the US.I think Enemy of The State describes NSA perfectly.Apparently that speech Gene Hackman gives in that movie is true and not some hollywood crap.They really do have a base which monitors all calls.



And MI6 is the best counter intelligence in the world,that is because there is a board called JIC(Joint Intelligence Committee) which is the boss of all security forces in UK(MI6 and Mi5).This board meets once in a week and discusses the intelligence problems within UK.There is a lot of information flow between MI5 and MI6 unlike the CIA and FBI who dont share information at all.And I think the position of UK is amazing,its right inbetween the 2 superpowers and can mediate.



Apparently even France's Surete is really good but I dont think they are really that big.



Then there is BOSS.The South African equivalent of CIA.But I dont think it exists right now.But I heard these guys are just like the MOSSAD,very cold and brutal.



The Russians have the FSB right now,its not as good as the KGB but god knows about them.They are very silent unlike the KGB which used to have various operations in the world and the KGB cheif was known as the second in command in Russia.



Then there is the MOSSAD.I think its called the best Intelligence Group of the smaller countries.But they have to be brutal otherwise their country will dissapear.They are surrounded by all arab countries who are willing to start a war .And did you guys know that the MOSSAD has a file on each and every country in the world?This file is updated very frequently and its has all the locations for the bases and stuff.

[Habitual Perfectionist]

This is interesting. Have lots to write on this, but unfortunately, work is heavy. Will write later.

[CtrlAltDel]

same here. right now i dont have time to write a long post.



IMO, MI6/5 and Mossad are the Best and CIA is the most over-rated.

[The Jackal]

same here. right now i dont have time to write a long post.

IMO, MI6/5 and Mossad are the Best and CIA is the most over-rated.

CIA is overrated because of Hollywood.Just too many movies about CIA.

[Habitual Perfectionist]

True....CIA has some prize conquests under its belt too. Its the hollywood movies, Bay of pigs and Irangate that have given it a bad name.

[CtrlAltDel]

remember the way India caught CIA off guard at Pokhran in '99...?



we pulled off a neat trick and fooled their satellites n spy network!

[The Jackal]

remember the way India caught CIA off guard at Pokhran in '99...?

we pulled off a neat trick and fooled their satellites n spy network!

I was a kid back then and wasnt interested.How exactly did we fool the CIA?

[CtrlAltDel]

remember the way India caught CIA off guard at Pokhran in '99...?

we pulled off a neat trick and fooled their satellites n spy network!

I was a kid back then and wasnt interested.How exactly did we fool the CIA?

well...the CIA never had an inkling abt our intentions and came to know of the N-Test only after it occured!



we fooled the CIA's spy satellites. our scientists knew abt the orbit of the satellites and planned all the activites (site preparation, transport etc) only when there were no satellites watching us. a very high level of secrecy was maintained abt the whole operation and not everyone knew all the details of what was going on. info was strictly on a need to know basis.



it became a huge embarrassment for the CIA when they learnt abt the blasts on the TV news next day!

[The Jackal]

Yeah didnt know about the sattelites thing but I knew about the TV thing.Wasnt there a huge controversy that if the same funding could be given to CNN,they would do a better job.

[Lady Fu Hao]

I am a trained remote viewer in the United States. I am looking for someone in India who is trained is psychotronics, bioenergetics or psychoenergetics. Preferably someone trained in bioelectromagnetic combat.



I was contacted by one of India's countrymen for help and apparently the distance is just too great.



Thank you.