Where is Azharuddin?

[MAK]

Does anyone know what happened to Azharuddin? I think he really did the fixing. Should we be ashamed because he is from Hyderabad?

[Faheem]

He was made a scapegoat. If he did do what he is being blamed for, then I agree he did the wrong. But do you think there aren\'t any more players in the present/past teams who were not involved, nobody in this world can make me believe this crap. Now should we be ashamed of this since he was from Hyderabad? How many people will you be ashamed of since they are from Hyderabad? Is Azhar the only person in Hyd you want to be ashamed of? While I look within myself, just look in your self and see if you haven\'t done anything wrong? I am sure you or I have done so much wrong that we should be ashamed about ourselves. look friend, in a Nutshell, what Azhar did was definetely wrong but like I said earlier, everyone else are not angels. Kapil got away by weeping in public and was also may be spared for the fact that he happens to be the only captain who brought world cup to India, see the bias?

[lucifer_in_disguise]

Yes he is a disgrace to the country, Poor we Indians, afterall we have only one popular sport cricket....and even in that Game ppl like Azharudin come out, what was less for him , a very beautiful first wife, glamorous second wife...lot of wealth ...above all greed......aah , yes it is a disgrace esp fro hyderabadis to have ppl like azhar...

[lucifer_in_disguise]

Faheem, Kapil was not proved guilty. If he is proved so, then no cry wud save him, he wud have been hit hard. Therez abs no bias. N ya, therez some bias def in the case of Azhar, he should have been actually awarded 20 years rigorous inprisonment for what he had done.

[Kulcha Hyderabadi]

What Azza did was wrong. Should we be ashamed because of him? I don’t think so. It was his wrong doing and he should be ashamed of it not others. In a country where corruption is rife, scandals and scams are common place, from top to bottom no one blinks an eye lid for taking or giving bribes, the issue of match fixing should have been no news!…The reason why the whole nation reacted to it so passionately was because of our fanatical attachment to the game….Now a sentence of 20 years.. its debatable. The case never went to the court and it was never proved beyond a shadow of doubt that Azhar, Jadeja, Sharma and Prabhakar were guilty. If we apply the same yard-stick (sentencing people for a 20-year jail term) for punishing people, than Sukhram, Laloo Yadav, Bangaru Laxman, George Fernandez and a lot of them should be in jail. But it doesn’t works this way. There are still several unanswered questions in match-fixing scandal. Everything was just done in a hurried manner. The big question is why was Mukesh Gupta not allowed to face Condon (ICC Investigator) inquiry? If on the basis of Mukesh Gupta’s evidence, Azhar, Jadeja, Prabhakar and Ajay Sharma were nailed then why Stewart, Mark Waugh, Shane Warne, Ranatunga, and De Silva were let off??----There could be another twist to this whole saga. You see, as per the reports match fixing was rife and was going on for several years. If this was the case, why was Azhar selected again and again despite poor form? Should we construe that the whole system was involved and when the shit hit the fan, Azhar and company were made the fall guys, with the understanding that nothing will happen to them, except a meaningless ban.

[Shahed]

A 20 rigrous imprisonment for a player who accepts money for poor performance. But can any gentleman suggest what will be the punishment to those who are directly involved in killings of 1000\'s of innocent Indians & crores of Scam , is there anybody to punish such Devils ???... Nope .. \'Y\' Coz they R..Huh!! Reality Bites.....

[Bhaimiya]

Bhai Shahid: Tum to haat dhokey padgaye peechey LID key.

[Hyderabadi-Biryani]

Yepp, I agree that \"Azza\" was made a scapegoat in this big scam of match-fixing. Since it was going on for years and Since it could not have been operated by only one person (Azza here), Definitely there are more people involved in this sham/scam. They got together and made Azza the fall guy. I suspect former/current memebers of BCCI were involved too either directly or indirectly.
Irony is that CBI, after all that investigation, came up with only Azza as the major culprit. Shame on them.
It\'s like digging a mountain and finding a mouse (khodha pahaad, Niklaa chuha).

Match-fixing will not go away with just Azza\'s indictment.
There should not be any contentment among public that match-fixing is gone forever. It is still there.

[lucifer-in-disguise]

Shaheed, in my opinion treason is the biggest crime than a killing or fraud. I dunno how you guys even support and talk about him.

[Sudha Rani]

Lucifer you cannot justify killing to be of less crime than other crimes. Life is the most important thing on earth. It is definitely the most important part of any religious teachings and to preserve it.

[Shahed]

LID..Ur.. Org. mess...yes shaheed ,I can understand what is a crime and what is not a crime for you.......but In my opinion treason is the biggest crime than a killing or fraud....i dunno how you guys even support and talk about him......or may be in your land Treason is highly appreciated..... aur haa Yaha bi aagaya Bhamiya Dol bajaane......aap jaisonke baareme kuch bhi nahi hosaktaaa?? ......................Ur ans:
The day U un\'tand yourself....The day you learn how to SPELL NAMES... The day you will able to differentiate between A Cricket Scam and Killings of innocent people...I will be the happiest guy in this world. BTW have ya seen this movie \'SHAHEED\' of Bobby.... secondly we are not supporting him if he found guilty then he must be punished, everybody criticised him here. But we want to punish those, who are involved in any kind of SCAM/Frauds or Innocent Killings . For you treason is the biggest crime n for me Innocent Killings is the Biggest Crime.
And Unfortunately... I think nobody is there in India to stand & take action against those killers, causing \'N\' number of problems........... And for the people who wanna know about Ajju... He is shifted his home to jubilee hills recently, coz the contract of Bajara Hills home was over and the owner wished to stay there. Enjoying his life with 2 sons & wife. He is maintaining himself by doing daily 2 hours non stop workout in the morning, he is very particular about health & fitness. He is planning to open a luxurious GYM there where they charge 15-20 Th per anum. His kids are playing cricket in the camp of Arshad Ayyub and Azhar is the best critiser for them. All in all he is very happy with his life.

[Kulcha Hyderabadi]

Welcome to the club Sudha - We expect your active participation here. Good to have a female voice amidst an overwhelming male majority. Have fun.

[Kulcha Hyderabadi]

Equating match-fixing with Treason! I guess we are outta our mind. Where do we fit these crimes: 1) Some soldiers in Kargil were without shoes! 2) There rifles wouldnt fire 3) The maps were probably 40 years old!......After all the defense spending, this is what those poor guyz have to deal with! Wheres all the money going? whos responsible for this blatant derliction of responsibility? Did we conduct an enquiry into this sordid affair? C\'mon guyz,,,wake-up. Life is not all about a silly game of cricket...where you want to put national honor in the hand of 11 players! Think of all those brave soldiers who are giving their best against all odds. Depriving them (soldiers) of decent means to defend themselves and the nation is TREASON, Dividing the country on religious and regional lines is TREASON, Poisining tender minds by meddling in curriculum and rewriting history to suit bigoted minds is TREASON.

[Srikanth]

hey .....i guess the discussion had started with Azhar and we ended up making him a traitor....come\'on people, why dont we take the better of what Azhar did......he is one of the successful captains of India.....and i definitely feel that this is not the way he should be treated....yeah i definitely agree that Azhar had done for which even he shall be repenting for another couple of years and i guess that punishment is more for his mistake and we are in no good position to PUNISH him by using all the so called attractive phrases which would like to.....

[hyderabadi]

see mr/mrs lucifer or whatever...
i can understand very well what u mean by ur statement. u relate every other problem with religion etc.. don\'t ever think that a paticular religion is after treason. why do u forget all country was praising azhar for his consecutive centuries during his debut they praised as new star born, he is the most successfull captain. mind others... to being hyderabadi we all should infact support him rather acting against him. see guys we all agree what azhar did is wrong, i agree with punishment he received from board..life ban, any one in future should get the same if he does something life match fixing etc. azhar deserved the punishment of life ban from cricket not our withdrawl of support for him.
we all do mistakes.. and we get punishment from our parents but they don\'t desert u once u commit some wrong doing. so, guys we shouldn\'t be harsh to azhar as he\'s already been punished with life ban and one can understand if he/she is ban from doing what he/she is best at. but guys we should support him during this hi lean period as we did when he was at his peak.

[lucifer-in-disguise]

hyderabadi, lemme give you the meaning of treaon, it means betrayal of trust. In soccer players sing there national anthem before going into the ground, unfortunately it is not practised in cricket......never mind.....and how sad it is that you allege me of fixing treason with \"religion\".....did\'nt you ever see my complete support to Prof.kalam saahb, n also i am a die hard fan of millions of Islamic ppl who have left there marks in the history of man kind........Ok finally when we commit a mistake, our parents punnish us and do not desert us, u are rt, but as a captain of the nation, when he commited a treason( see my def above).....what was the punnishment he got.....fianlly i reiterate, every one who commits such a act should be punnished rigorously, but since in this context we were talkin about azhar, i pointed my finger in particular to him........n hey hyderabadi, remeber , treason is always a treason you can never say its magnitude was small or big.....it is that treacherous attitude inside Azharthat was bad.......n one last nail into your coffin.....If you listen to PInk floyd, one of the lyric is like...\" even the Sun is eclipsed by the moon\"....it means how ever great a man is(sun) , if he commits a small mistake, then he is thrown into the dark(by moon)......take care...

[mush]

See mR. is there any person who can clap with one hand, or is there any racket without more than one person involved. so where are others? why is only \'Azza\'? infact i would say mr. azharuddin the best ever captain india had produce is more brave and straight forward as he was in his captaincy that he came out with fact and dare to come face to face and not like others who kept mum & afraid of their fame. so mr lucifier check the other side of coin and make yourself judge before commenting anything. so find out the actual fact who other\'s were also involved. just tell me there are hundreds of scams in india of fruad, treason and other form p.v.narsimha rao(from A.P.) to lalloo to advani to uma bharti and many others so where are their punishment. not a single big person of constitution were punished till now. so why go so crazy for azza. there are many reliable and big persons than azza who had played sentiments with people. so why with azza? if think possitively he had given more than what people had expected. so if think, think good and be a good judger. i would like to have a comment from your side my friend.

[Abu Abdullah]

<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>OK guys, here\'s the same things as before for Anil\'s sake.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>Hello Y\'all.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>I see fellow Hyderabadis arguing over lots of stuff which actually started of with Azhar\'s whereabouts. I\'d like to limit myself to some comments about his role in match-fixing.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>Though I am one of the biggest of Azhar\'s fans, the following is a dispassionate analysis about his career and his alleged role in match-fixing.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>If you look at the way things went in the period between 1990-1999, I think that, even though Azhar has been most successful captain India had so far, his captaincy was mediocre. Statistically it is true that Azhar has won more test matches as a captiain than any other Indian captain so far, but that shouldn\'t be astonishing given that he was a captain for a good part of nine years.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>I remember well that in the period of Nov-Dec 1997, Sachin was the captain & he was doing well as a batsman & OK as a captain given the options that he had during the Sharjah cup. He was intrumental in guiding India to victory almost singlehandedly in the previous version in April, 1997. Azhar\'s performance in this tournament (Dec 1997) was not good at all. I think the highest he scored was 38 which didn\'t have even a single 4 or a 6. There was also a talk of Jaywant Lele or someother board official making a SOS trip to Sharjah to sort out the differences between \'senior team members\', though this was kept under wraps. The very next tournament that India play (some kind of Triangular in Dhaka with Pak involved), Azhar was made the captain (India won the tournament by chasing the highest ever one day total hitherto chased). </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>What does this all show? Whay was Azhar made the captian again even though Sachin was not doing bad at all?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>This makes me believe that there were other elements in the board who didn\'t want Sachin to be the Captain because of his \'never say die\' attitude as a captain. Why would late Hansie single out Azhar as the person who introduced him to MK when he could have taken the name of any other international cricketer (Salim Malik was already declared a suspect at that time). I think what Hansie told was truth. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>I personally believe that Azhar was involved in the match fixing, but he was only a small pawn in the whole scheme of things. If he wasn\'t, why was he persisted with as a captain despite his mediocre performances as a captain? This was simply because of his obedient \'good boy\' attitude with the board. When the things became to difficult to handle, the dishonest board officials used him  and some other members of the team as  a scapegoat. Remember there was a ridiculous attempt before to sweep things under the carpet with the Chandrachud commision? </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>Kapil had great financial clout & Jadeja had political, but at that time Azhar had neither, so naturally he suffered the most.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>In essence I feel that Azhar role should not be condoned, but I also feel that he is not that big a devil that he is made out to be. Infact, there may be bigger bigwigs than him, so the media/judicial system should try to get to the bottom of this rather than being complacent that they have a victim.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>Would like to know what others think of this \'board involvement\' theory.</FONT></DIV>

[Anil]

Abu, Could you please post in regular default fonts and colors? Its quite a strain on the eyes reading your posting (the font is small and its in italics and the line spacing seems to be almost nil).

[Abu Abdullah]

<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>OK guys, here\'s the same things as before for Anil\'s sake.</FONT></DIV>
<br>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=5>=============================================</FONT></DIV>
<br>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>Hello Y\'all.</FONT></DIV>
<br>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>I see fellow Hyderabadis arguing over lots of stuff which actually started of with Azhar\'s whereabouts. I\'d like to limit myself to some comments about his role in match-fixing.</FONT></DIV>
<br>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>Though I am one of the biggest of Azhar\'s fans, the following is a dispassionate analysis about his career and his alleged role in match-fixing.</FONT></DIV>
<br>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>If you look at the way things went in the period between 1990-1999, I think that, even though Azhar has been most successful captain India had so far, his captaincy was mediocre. Statistically it is true that Azhar has won more test matches as a captiain than any other Indian captain so far, but that shouldn\'t be astonishing given that he was a captain for a good part of nine years.</FONT></DIV>
<br>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>I remember well that in the period of Nov-Dec 1997, Sachin was the captain & he was doing well as a batsman & OK as a captain given the options that he had during the Sharjah cup. He was intrumental in guiding India to victory almost singlehandedly in the previous version in April, 1997. Azhar\'s performance in this tournament (Dec 1997) was not good at all. I think the highest he scored was 38 which didn\'t have even a single 4 or a 6. There was also a talk of Jaywant Lele or someother board official making a SOS trip to Sharjah to sort out the differences between \'senior team members\', though this was kept under wraps. The very next tournament that India play (some kind of Triangular in Dhaka with Pak involved), Azhar was made the captain (India won the tournament by chasing the highest ever one day total hitherto chased). </FONT></DIV>
<br>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>What does this all show? Whay was Azhar made the captian again even though Sachin was not doing bad at all?</FONT></DIV>
<br>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>This makes me believe that there were other elements in the board who didn\'t want Sachin to be the Captain because of his \'never say die\' attitude as a captain. Why would late Hansie single out Azhar as the person who introduced him to MK when he could have taken the name of any other international cricketer (Salim Malik was already declared a suspect at that time). I think what Hansie told was truth. </FONT></DIV>
<br>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>I personally believe that Azhar was involved in the match fixing, but he was only a small pawn in the whole scheme of things. If he wasn\'t, why was he persisted with as a captain despite his mediocre performances as a captain? This was simply because of his obedient \'good boy\' attitude with the board. When the things became to difficult to handle, the dishonest board officials used him  and some other members of the team as  a scapegoat. Remember there was a ridiculous attempt before to sweep things under the carpet with the Chandrachud commision? </FONT></DIV>
<br>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>Kapil had great financial clout & Jadeja had political, but at that time Azhar had neither, so naturally he suffered the most.</FONT></DIV>
<br>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>In essence I feel that Azhar role should not be condoned, but I also feel that he is not that big a devil that he is made out to be. Infact, there may be bigger bigwigs than him, so the media/judicial system should try to get to the bottom of this rather than being complacent that they have a victim.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000bf face=system size=4>Would like to know what others think of this \'board involvement\' theory.</FONT></DIV>

[old is gold]

Azar must be busy trying to open a tea shop