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by daisy » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:00 pm

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:hey, I dunno how to boot
me neither. what is ir anyway? can we kick out the person while we are chatting, is that what it mean?
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by enriquee » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:30 pm

hey kk... i contradict u... Y! is the best.... ads are a part of every free email service provider.... and for ur kind attention, "the user rooms have been shut down...."...I havnt come across any SPIM while using ymsgr.....
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by lonewolf » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:38 pm

daisy wrote:
Mayavi Morpheus wrote:hey, I dunno how to boot
me neither. what is ir anyway? can we kick out the person while we are chatting, is that what it mean?




There are booter programs available. Once you install a booter program on your computer, you can boot off, or log off anyone you chat with. Yahoo is a little strict about people who use booter programs and your account may get disabled if you're found using one.
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by daisy » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:52 pm

lonewolf wrote:There are booter programs available. Once you install a booter program on your computer, you can boot off, or log off anyone you chat with. Yahoo is a little strict about people who use booter programs and your account may get disabled if you're found using one.
oh, thanks loney :)
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by Lucifer » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:22 pm

First of all, all those who think Yahoo! sucks please get a life. Yahoo! is among the most reliable email services I have ever used. My emails have never been lost or not delivered. The spam filters are good, too.



And if you use features like chat, games, etc. on a regular basis you have no life anyway to speak of.



I am a hardcore Yahoo! loyalist. Have been since the summer of '99. Even services like gmail have given me no reason to shift my primary email ID. As time moves on, I may use gmail as a repository. But I do not see my primary email ID moving away from yahoo unless the world comes crashing down.
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by ycr007 » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:36 pm

I Agree With Luci. There's Nothing of the sort of a Free Lunch in this World.What if Yahoo Appends a Sig to the mails? Who Reads the WHOLE Mail Anyway? Have you Ever received a Forward that has Crisscrossed Entire Continents and is Sprinkled With Ads,Messages,Sigs and WhatNot All Over it? Do U read it in its Enirety Anytime? I Bet Not.



Yahoo'sMultitude Offerings and that Too Under a Single Userid & Password Is Prolly the Best thing that Could Have Happened to the Internet and While Competition is Really Tough out there,As Far as Services Like Mail,Groups,Finance,Photo albums,Geocities Etc Go,Itz Tops.



And Even after Lot of Cloning all around By Competitors,Some of Yahoo's Offerings are the Best./Have You Seen Google's Beta Groups. What a Sick Interface and Pithy Functionality!! I Agree that it is still in Beta Phase and Google is Very Aggressive on the Internet Media Front,As of Now,Yahooo Rulezz.And Hotmail Sucks!!
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by KK » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:05 pm

enriquee wrote:hey kk... i contradict u... Y! is the best.... ads are a part of every free email service provider.... and for ur kind attention, "the user rooms have been shut down...."...I havnt come across any SPIM while using ymsgr.....




I hear you. Also, I just came to know about the deliberate move from Y! to shut down the users rooms temporarily, I've been thinking that its because of the bug. My bad! I dont know why they dont stick a note about it at the entry point of user rooms.

About the appending ad to the mail message, all I am saying is its a lame way of advertising. If I understand gmail ad strategy correctly, their approach is to display relavent ads on a side of the window. Well, if all the major free email service providers decide to append ads to the mail message, I shall live with it only with a more appreciation to the past.
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by KK » Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:18 pm

Lucifer wrote:First of all, all those who think Yahoo! sucks please get a life. Yahoo! is among the most reliable email services I have ever used. My emails have never been lost or not delivered. The spam filters are good, too.

And if you use features like chat, games, etc. on a regular basis you have no life anyway to speak of.

I am a hardcore Yahoo! loyalist. Have been since the summer of '99. Even services like gmail have given me no reason to shift my primary email ID. As time moves on, I may use gmail as a repository. But I do not see my primary email ID moving away from yahoo unless the world comes crashing down.




One second thoughts, Y! does not sound as bad I thought. But certainly its loosing the game in some areas. Y! search lost to google search. Y! Yellow pages is losing to the local.google.com. I prefer beta maps.google.com over maps.yahoo.com most of the times. Lets see if google's ad stategy of "do no harm" can beat Y! mail.

On the otherhand I agree that Y! rocks in chat, games, launchcast, etc.
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by 3 T'z » Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:30 pm

I've got only 1 thin 2 tell...YAHOO IS DA BEST!!
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by lonewolf » Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:07 pm

As far as email is concerned, Yahoo! is very good, maybe the best of all the free email services around.



Gmail is also good but has to do more to be the universal best. Gmail technically provides the fastest email access on the web since it is JavaScript driven, but for that you need to have a browser that is not too old.



One of the advantages of Yahoo! is that it localises according to the user's geographical location. If someone from Pacific Asia access Yahoo mail, they are routed to http://aa.yahoo.com or http://asia.yahoo.com, so they are able to access their Yahoo! mail more easily. Google has a similar localisation but it is very beta, and doesn't extend to Gmail.



Every free email comes with a signature or additional text, whether you like it or not. Yahoo! Mail has its one liner advertisements while Google has its JavaScript AdSense ads.



If you are a regular user of POP3 clients like Mozilla Thunderbird, Evolution or Outlook, Gmail is the one for you. It uses different ports than the regular 25 and 110, probably to minimise spam.



Yahoo! Maps is better than Google Maps. I've noticed errors with the travel directions in Google Maps. Yahoo! Maps isn't that accurate either, but its better. Google Maps will trample on Yahoo! Maps one day and that won't take long.



Coming to messengers, the official Yahoo! windows client is decent without Launchcast running. Anyway I use GAIM when I'm on Linux because its the best. Three days ago, I installed the Windows version of GAIM for my new roomie and he's so fascinated by its speed and everything that he's uninstalled the official Yahoo! messenger from his laptop. Its so nice to see his status message right now - Sorry I ran out for a bit :P
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by Sharjeel » Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:34 pm

Great Info, Loney! Thanks!!!
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by ycr007 » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:44 pm

KK wrote: If I understand gmail ad strategy correctly, their approach is to display relavent ads on a side of the window.




AFAIK,Gmail Reads one's Mails To Show theose Relevant ads.I Know that itz a Bot But I Don't want anyone,Not Even a Frikkin' Bot to Read My Mails :x

Also their Mail is Fast But The Feature thatz Hailed By Many-Labels,Is a PITA.

I Like My Inbox Clean n Uncluttered But Gmail prevnts me from having it thus.......
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by lonewolf » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:36 pm

ycr007 wrote:AFAIK,Gmail Reads one's Mails To Show theose Relevant ads.I Know that itz a Bot But I Don't want anyone,Not Even a Frikkin' Bot to Read My Mails

Well, do you think Yahoo! allows you 100% privacy? By inserting their own signatures at the end of every email you send, it is obviously there is a <read> followed by an <append>, which means the contents of your mail are also sent through a scanner. You don't have any privacy with any of the free emails.

ycr007 wrote:Also their Mail is Fast But The Feature thatz Hailed By Many-Labels,Is a PITA.


It sucks. I never understood their logic of eliminating folders.
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by kk » Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:59 am

lonewolf wrote:
ycr007 wrote:AFAIK,Gmail Reads one's Mails To Show theose Relevant ads.I Know that itz a Bot But I Don't want anyone,Not Even a Frikkin' Bot to Read My Mails

Well, do you think Yahoo! allows you 100% privacy? By inserting their own signatures at the end of every email you send, it is obviously there is a <read> followed by an <append>, which means the contents of your mail are also sent through a scanner. You don't have any privacy with any of the free emails.
I did not know, Y! also does a mail scan. I wonder how Y! could escape from European laws of safegaurding privacy issues while gmail could not?
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ycr007 wrote:Also their Mail is Fast But The Feature thatz Hailed By Many-Labels,Is a PITA.

It sucks. I never understood their logic of eliminating folders.


Guys, I dont understand the problem you are talking about. Could you please elaborate a lil more on this. If you talking about applying labels to a mail for archiving, why should it be a PITA when its an optional feature?
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by ycr007 » Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:45 pm

kk wrote:
ycr007 wrote:Also their Mail is Fast But The Feature thatz Hailed By Many-Labels,Is a PITA.

It sucks. I never understood their logic of eliminating folders.

Guys, I dont understand the problem you are talking about. Could you please elaborate a lil more on this. If you talking about applying labels to a mail for archiving, why should it be a PITA when its an optional feature?[/quote]



Well,With Yahoomail,One can Arrange all Mails into Designated Folders and Keep the Look of the Inbox Clutter-Free.and that would Give you an Hassle-Free Handling also.Particularly if One receives Close to a Hundred Mails Daily.

But With Gmail,there's no Folders Concept.They have this "label" thing which one can attach to Mails.But they do remain in the inbox,thus making it Interminably long n cluttered.

We can Move all the "already labelled" mails into the archive,but to access the mails we've gotta click on the "labels" and then access them or else "search" for them.Thatz what i Find a PITA..Also with Yahoomail,Filters can be added to incoming mail.Gmail also has them but I have to Label them first and then move to archive or whatever......Phew!!!
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by KK » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:11 am

Y! Hack!



http://www.buddy-spy.com : to find whos is invisible to you,which chat room he or she is in,wheather the person's webcam is on,etc.



Dont try on my ID though :D
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by spamtaneous » Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:27 pm

nice link there KK....
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by spamtaneous » Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:41 pm

is it safe to put in the login and password..... :evil: ..



KK wrote:Y! Hack!

http://www.buddy-spy.com : to find whos is invisible to you,which chat room he or she is in,wheather the person's webcam is on,etc.

Dont try on my ID though :D
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by KK » Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:41 am

spamtaneous wrote:is it safe to put in the login and password..... :evil: ..

KK wrote:Y! Hack!

http://www.buddy-spy.com : to find whos is invisible to you,which chat room he or she is in,wheather the person's webcam is on,etc.

Dont try on my ID though :D




thats a good question!
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Ymail vs. Gmail

by Biriyani_chai » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:22 pm

Well,With Yahoomail,One can Arrange all Mails into Designated Folders and Keep the Look of the Inbox Clutter-Free.and that would Give you an Hassle-Free Handling also.Particularly if One receives Close to a Hundred Mails Daily.
But With Gmail,there's no Folders Concept.They have this "label" thing which one can attach to Mails.But they do remain in the inbox,thus making it Interminably long n cluttered.
We can Move all the "already labelled" mails into the archive,but to access the mails we've gotta click on the "labels" and then access them or else "search" for them.Thatz what i Find a PITA..Also with Yahoomail,Filters can be added to incoming mail.Gmail also has them but I have to Label them first and then move to archive or whatever......Phew!!!




Guys, you are bickering over a trivial issue. So you say that gmail is a PITA because you have to label each mail and archive it. well, you have to do the same with yahoo mail also. Only, you are clicking on each mail and then saying move to folder.



labeling mails makes them easy to recognize later. As for lables, what yahoo uses as folders, gmail uses as lables. So where is the PITA??? I have been using Yahoo mail for close to 6 years now. Just see my in box, and you will see literally 100s of spam mails (even though I dont subscribe to anything they are about). The same happens when I create a new yahoo account, within a week or so, you start getting spam. With gmail, there is spam, but much less.



also, the very mention of privacy invasion with regard to gmail is stupidity. They have said it over and over that your mail is read by machines, not humans. Every email provider does it. So what is the big deal???



Do you know, the day I signed up for gmail, within 24 hours, my yahoo account size was updated to 250 MB from the miserly 6 MB before???
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by talking » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:33 pm

akhilis2cool wrote:I only use the emailing service of Y!....so far havent faced a serious problem.




mee too
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Re: Ymail vs. Gmail

by ycr007 » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:23 pm

Biriyani_chai wrote:[So you say that gmail is a PITA because you have to label each mail and archive it. well, you have to do the same with yahoo mail also. Only, you are clicking on each mail and then saying move to folder.

No,I Don't Do That. I Use "Filters" To Move the Mails to Various Folders as and when they Come. So Whenever I Login to Yahoomail, i Can See Which Folders have New Mails Instead of "108 Unread Messages in the Inbox"
In Gmail also there are Filters But those again Only Label them and there is a Option of Archiving them.

Biriyani_chai wrote:labeling mails makes them easy to recognize later. As for lables, what yahoo uses as folders, gmail uses as lables. So where is the PITA???
But My Primary Gripe is that in Gmail,Even after Labelling All the Diff Categories of Mails (FYI,I Have 16 Labels) all of them reside in the Inbox itself.Or in the Archive if i Choose to Archive them.



Biriyani_chai wrote:The same happens when I create a new yahoo account, within a week or so, you start getting spam. With gmail, there is spam, but much less.
99% of the time,all the Spam mails are Diverted to the "Junk Mail" Folder and It is only Rarely that a Spam finds its way into my Inbox.Yahoo has a pretty Effective Spam Filter But the User has to be Proeactive with them.Marking Unwanted mails as Spam will only increase the Spam Filters Effectiveness.

Biriyani_chai wrote:Do you know, the day I signed up for gmail, within 24 hours, my yahoo account size was updated to 250 MB from the miserly 6 MB before???


Well,3 of My Yahoo Accounts are of 1 GB now and i distinctly Remember one Being upgraded to 250 MB a While 'before' I got a Gmail Invite.
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by enriquee » Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:24 pm

KK wrote:Y! Hack!

http://www.buddy-spy.com : to find whos is invisible to you,which chat room he or she is in,wheather the person's webcam is on,etc.

Dont try on my ID though :D






hehe.... it is an old one...

tell us something which is new and which works better....
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