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Does LOVE really exist in this mechanical world

by labelle » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:12 pm

I have been seeing guys and gals swearing that they will be with each other all their lives and say that they are in "LOVE" but the very next thing you know that tehy are getting married to someone else so the question is Does love really exist?. if so why there is so much uncertainty there?. Even if ppl say they are in love the first few weeks are fine and the whole same story of bragging and blaming starts is this something on which the producers cash on?. is this something that the valentines's day is celebrated is there really something called love or are we living in the hypothetical world or has the Word love or the relation become more physical. what is your opinion on this Guys?
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Re: Does LOVE really exist in this mechanical world

by daisy » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:52 pm

yes, love does exist.



btw why LOVE only between a girl and boy? love can be between parents and children, friends and so many other forms.
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Re: Does LOVE really exist in this mechanical world

by Sharjeel » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:56 pm

Agree with daisy :mrgreen:. There are a lot of relations in addition to just the one between girls and boys.



As long as humans are existant in this world, love will continue to flourish. It is just that some teens, idiots, etc mistake infatutaion to be love.



It is not just about liking someone, it is more about liking someone AND caring about him AND trusting him AND being patient with him AND letting him be himself in addition to a hundred other things.
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hmmmmm

by labelle » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:37 pm

there is no question about the love that exists between parents and



children and i dare not doubt it but the kinda love sharjeel you are talking



about is a rare exceptional cases. i have seen so many cases like the one



i started the topic with that i doubt that love exists. I have seen something



that shook my rock solid faith in love to shake.
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by Neutron Star » Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:59 am

You have a point but like most things in life which dont go according to plan so is love.



A lot of people fall in love but many of them have their own way of looking at love & many reasons why the fall in love.

Some see it as a temporary phase where in they want an understanding person for as long as it seems perfect but dont think about marriage.



Some love only with the goal of marriage.



There is nothing wrong with any of them but just that some ways of love suits some better while another form many suit a few others better.



And then there is the whole physical urge at a certain age & a lot of us use the pretext of love to fullfill that pleasure and in many cases the other person in the relationship doesnt even know of it.



I personally think love can end in marriage provided one is firstly having this in mind & is willing to compromise a little, is willing to wait maybe years.



I know how it feels when one thinks that there is no hope for love. I think we all go through this healthy phase

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Re: hmmmmm

by Sharjeel » Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:10 pm

labelle wrote:but the kinda love sharjeel you are talking about is a rare exceptional cases.
It is really very very unfortunate, but what you say is true.



Some people are level headed and do not jump into 'relationshops', but as you say, most of the people are just too impatient, reluctant, hesistant, ... to find their true love.



But all is not lost. The best thing about society is that we people learn from others' mistakes...
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Re: hmmmmm

by mark » Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:25 pm

Sharjeel wrote:
labelle wrote:but the kinda love sharjeel you are talking about is a rare exceptional cases.
It is really very very unfortunate, but what you say is true.

Some people are level headed and do not jump into 'relationshops', but as you say, most of the people are just too impatient, reluctant, hesistant, ... to find their true love.

But all is not lost. The best thing about society is that we people learn from others' mistakes...






haha, yeah my dad said something like this to me once, "son my life is a guidebook on what not to do" but of course i have so much respect for my father i've pretty much turned out exactly like him in most ways.



good points raised here, sometimes i feel like i need someone to love other times i feel that if i never meet that special someone at least i've met some extremely nice and interesting people along the way and shared my precious bodily fluids with them.
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by Lucifer » Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:42 pm

Why love? Does anything really exist in this world? Does the world even exist?
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by CtrlAltDel » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:06 pm

according to Morpheus, it doesnt...:?
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by Sharjeel » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:10 pm

Lucifer wrote:Why love? Does anything really exist in this world? Does the world even exist?
Ya know, my database teacher teaches me:



nothing is permanent except Data. Tables, Views, extents, tablespaces, users, etc are all logical. which makes me think of this:



Are we real/physical, or are we also fake/logical?
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by Jaszalcatraz » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:21 pm

Lucifer wrote:Why love? Does anything really exist in this world? Does the world even exist?


Leave it to Lucifer to trivialise life.
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by lebelle » Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:56 pm

Neutron Star wrote:You have a point but like most things in life which dont go according to plan so is love.

A lot of people fall in love but many of them have their own way of looking at love & many reasons why the fall in love.
Some see it as a temporary phase where in they want an understanding person for as long as it seems perfect but dont think about marriage.

Some love only with the goal of marriage.

There is nothing wrong with any of them but just that some ways of love suits some better while another form many suit a few others better.

And then there is the whole physical urge at a certain age & a lot of us use the pretext of love to fullfill that pleasure and in many cases the other person in the relationship doesnt even know of it.

I personally think love can end in marriage provided one is firstly having this in mind & is willing to compromise a little, is willing to wait maybe years.

I know how it feels when one thinks that there is no hope for love. I think we all go through this healthy phase
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i completely agree with what you say i think that you have a mature head over your shoulders. i was indicating at the same point. the whole point of discussion is that the feeling of love is less and urge for a physical relation is more in maximum cases. i have seen both kinds of love or let us say the variations of love. i dont know for why the word love or the feeling of love has so many variations. is it justified? how can you measure the success of your love? can it be measured? is marriage ultimate victory for love? tooo many questions very less answers
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by mark » Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:41 pm

my thoughts on this. Love transends marrage, it is an order of magnitude more important than it (for me). Love is a feeling, an emotion, a response of our mind dictated by the x number of years we've been on the planet. Marrage is a social institution designed to try to formalise love in the boundarys of a contract. I would compare it to faith and religion. Faith is a human emotion, a feeling, an unproven certainty. Religion is a man-made box for faith, a way to try to institutionalise it and pass it down into the future. Personally, I have faith but no religion and i have love but i will most likely not get married (despite what i said in a previous thread i was in a pessimistic mood then)

In fact the two things cross over, you need to have faith in love. I guess marrage is the religion of love, the man-made box in which we try to pinpoint the ultimate goal of love.

In summary, i feel religious people have an affinity for marrage as it represents the same thing as the institute of religion, a solid framework free from ambiguity, that can be easily passed down to the next generation without any missunderstandings as to its operation. Spiritual people prefer to talk of love as it represents the same confused emotional state as non-religious spiritual people have in their relationship with god/nature/cosmic onenessness.
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by babloo » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:12 am

luv.... romanticised by poets and writers....



since we r discussing about luv ...should i say it exists...or else we wouldnt be discussing



whats luv......



for me luv is not absolute much like good and bad..its once perception of the feeling one has for others....



mother loves her child bcos its her child.......even then there is a difference of how much she loves from a one child to other..... so what drives her luv here.....her opinion...whether child is good or not ( she luvs no matter what but more luv to one who is good..or matches her wavelength)....



girl and guy....hmmm its a matter of choice..... its more of liking than luv.....too much liking is luv??? may be.....



is luv one likes or over liking.



i am confused now :roll:
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by labelle » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:26 am

babloo wrote:luv.... romanticised by poets and writers....

since we r discussing about luv ...should i say it exists...or else we wouldnt be discussing

whats luv......

for me luv is not absolute much like good and bad..its once perception of the feeling one has for others....

mother loves her child bcos its her child.......even then there is a difference of how much she loves from a one child to other..... so what drives her luv here.....her opinion...whether child is good or not ( she luvs no matter what but more luv to one who is good..or matches her wavelength)....

girl and guy....hmmm its a matter of choice..... its more of liking than luv.....too much liking is luv??? may be.....

is luv one likes or over liking.

i am confused now :roll:




love in its original form is pure without any maya(expectation) or moh(desire) but we human beings having adultrated everything we have adultrated love we have filled it with lust and expectation to some extent it is obvious that when we love someone we do have expectation expectation that the person would return your feelings. if that does not happen u feel cheated and unwanted is this also an attribute of love?
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